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  •  For those wondering "where is Obama?" (8+ / 0-)

    a few points might be in order here. Firstly, Obama's position on this issue is already well known. He's already offered more than one speech and press release about Telecom Immunity. Secondly, he's our presidential nominee, but he's also a U.S. Senator. For the sake of comity, he probably isn't going to poach on Steny Hoyer's turf. Anyone think Hoyer needs Obama to tell him he's opposed to this? No, of course not. Hoyer knows that. So Obama may very well wait until this has gone through the House. Guess what happens after this goes through the House? It's gets kicked up to the Senate, where they get to play their own games. And it's entirely possible that Obama, or some other senator, will place a secret hold on this and leave it in dry-dock. Or, if it gets attached to the war supplemental, the senate may then have a very good excuse to say "Wait a second. The president just rebuked us for adding in all sorts of stuff to the supplementals. And because we are so very much in love with this president and his admonitions, we're sending this back to the House, because we refuse to sign all of this together." I mean, all sorts of parliamentary games are going on here. It's entirely possible that the reason they may be combining this with the supplemental is because they know damned well that a good many Republicans will, on priniple, balk at signing on to a pork party that's been tacked on to a major spending bill.
    Well, just a thought.

    •  THE VOICE OF REASON (2+ / 0-)
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      steve davis, Deighved H Stern MD

      Thank God for you, steve davis.

      Rec, rec rec-- rec rec rec.  REC!!!

      Only the PTA? You know what the PTA stands for? Three things I respect and fear. Parents, Teachers, and Associations. [Rob Petrie]

      by eroded47095 on Thu Jun 19, 2008 at 02:04:40 PM PDT

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    •  I've got your comment on my clipboard steve (1+ / 0-)
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      steve davis

      People are screaming, "OBAMA is STABBING us in the BACK!"

      I really think they might be trolls, to be honest.

      This is probably the most famous blog of all after all.

      The implosion is beyond sanity.

      Only the PTA? You know what the PTA stands for? Three things I respect and fear. Parents, Teachers, and Associations. [Rob Petrie]

      by eroded47095 on Thu Jun 19, 2008 at 02:32:44 PM PDT

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    •  Wish you were right.... (0+ / 0-)

      ...but I'm not holding my breath.

      I'd be thrilled to be proven wrong.

      I've supported Obama, contributed to his campaign, and defended him on the blogs (including on some mouth-foaming sites like Corrente).  

      Perhaps "stabbing in the back" is a bit strong.

      "Selling us out", otoh, is not.  IMHO.

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