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  •  Israel is whatever the Israeli government says (1+ / 0-)
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    corvo

    It is.  And as Gaza starves and the Arab lands grow smaller, a coterie of Israel partisans insult our intelligence by quoting figures like 19% with a straight face.

    Same as it ever was.

    •  LOL you are a funny man (3+ / 0-)
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      livosh1, greatdarkspot, Red Sox

      I don't have a straight face because I am laughing at you.

      You keep saying that it's not possible right now. Ya think, Captain Obvious? unspeakable to me in a Fry'd Daze diary

      by volleyboy1 on Sun Mar 07, 2010 at 06:11:36 PM PST

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      •  Thanks. You just motivated me to donate (2+ / 0-)
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        corvo, unspeakable

        Again to Save the Children's fund for Gaza and the West Bank.  After the slaughter of "Cast Lead" they are still suffering.  I urge anyone who doesn't find Palestinian suffering funny to do the same.

        Thank you.

        •  I think that is great (2+ / 0-)
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          livosh1, Corwin Weber

          you should donate to them.. I might even do that.

          No... I am laughing at your total lack of understanding there not the people in West Bank and Gaza.

          Actually I hugely support Israel ending the occupation - I just find your hyperbole hilarious. Sorry.

          You keep saying that it's not possible right now. Ya think, Captain Obvious? unspeakable to me in a Fry'd Daze diary

          by volleyboy1 on Sun Mar 07, 2010 at 06:28:22 PM PST

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          •  Hyperbole? How many Palestinian children died (1+ / 0-)
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            corvo

            In Cast Lead?

            Or are you still busy laughing?

            •  Approximately 435 and like I said (2+ / 0-)
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              livosh1, Corwin Weber

              I am not laughing at that - I am laughing at you... Big difference. Apparently you don't read comments or diaries here if you think I am laughing at that.

              BTW, how many children suffer PTSD in Israel because of Hamas Rocket Attacks that Cast Lead ended ... just wondering.

              But apparently reading is a skill you have not learned. Let me highlight what I said:

              No... I am laughing at your total lack of understanding there not the people in West Bank and Gaza.

              I emphasize this so you can't make some stupid ass false claim. Thanks for playing though.

              You keep saying that it's not possible right now. Ya think, Captain Obvious? unspeakable to me in a Fry'd Daze diary

              by volleyboy1 on Sun Mar 07, 2010 at 06:43:29 PM PST

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              •  Hysteria often leads to obsessive laughter. (1+ / 0-)
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                corvo

                So I'm not surprised.  Laugh all you like.  

                Nobody wants Israeli children to suffer PTSD, but being killed like dogs by the IDF is hardly comparable to PTSD.  You seem to be saying the events are comparable, which is abominable.

                Did you donate yet?  Or all you all talk about sympathy for the children of Gaza?

                •  I have donated more to peace than you (3+ / 0-)
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                  livosh1, Red Sox, Gatordiet

                  can imagine...

                  You keep saying that it's not possible right now. Ya think, Captain Obvious? unspeakable to me in a Fry'd Daze diary

                  by volleyboy1 on Sun Mar 07, 2010 at 06:57:00 PM PST

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                  •  So that's a "no" (1+ / 0-)
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                    corvo

                    On your donation to Palestinian kids suffering because of Cast Lead.  Evasive, disingenuous, and callous.

                    I wish there were something funny about you.

                    •  Yeah - that is a no (0+ / 0-)

                      regarding Cast Lead - I donate mostly to Shalom Achshav and Meretz both groups that are dedicated to a peaceful and just TWO-STATE Solution.

                      But I find your rhetoric and hyperbole pretty funny.

                      And by the way I was laughing at this comment...

                      Israel is whatever the Israeli government says It is.  And as Gaza starves and the Arab lands grow smaller, a coterie of Israel partisans insult our intelligence by quoting figures like 19% with a straight face.

                      Same as it ever was.

                      You have no idea what Israel is - and/or what it's land should be. Population figures are what they are. I quoted Pre-67 and post... thanks though for stopping in. We have some nice parting gifts on the way out.

                      You keep saying that it's not possible right now. Ya think, Captain Obvious? unspeakable to me in a Fry'd Daze diary

                      by volleyboy1 on Sun Mar 07, 2010 at 07:12:57 PM PST

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                      •  kinda ironic . . . (1+ / 0-)
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                        MrJayTee

                        Yeah - regarding Cast Lead - I donate mostly to Shalom Achshav and Meretz both groups that are dedicated to a peaceful and just TWO-STATE Solution.

                        . . . given Meretz's initial support for Cast Lead.

                        •  Yeah kind ironic... (0+ / 0-)

                          do you really want to have the whole Cast Lead discussion or are you just being one of those weasely little guys who sits in the corner encouraging others to fight (as usual)...

                          Meretz did support Cast Lead as I did in the beginning but, it all went too far. AND Meretz does support an inquiry into war crimes. But keep going....

                          You keep saying that it's not possible right now. Ya think, Captain Obvious? unspeakable to me in a Fry'd Daze diary

                          by volleyboy1 on Sun Mar 07, 2010 at 08:27:38 PM PST

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                          •  Well, if you say so. :-) (1+ / 0-)
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                            MrJayTee

                            Meretz's performance on Cast Lead was an exact repeat of its performance during the last Lebanon War.  The most charitable explanation, it would seem, is that those Meretz folks aren't exactly quick studies.

                            Oh, and . . .

                            or are you just being one of those weasely little guys who sits in the corner encouraging others to fight (as usual)

                            . . . no; if anything I'm having fun at your expense.  I know, fish in a barrel and all that. :-)))

                          •  Yep glad I could provide you that (1+ / 0-)
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                            Red Sox

                            entertainment. Makes me feel all warm and fuzzy.

                            You keep saying that it's not possible right now. Ya think, Captain Obvious? unspeakable to me in a Fry'd Daze diary

                            by volleyboy1 on Sun Mar 07, 2010 at 08:43:56 PM PST

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                          •  me too. :-))))) n/t (0+ / 0-)
                          •  See I just figured out why I don't like you (2+ / 0-)
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                            hikerbiker, canadian gal

                            Pretty much because all you do is make snide little remarks and uprate people to piss others off or bat for your little team.

                            I mean what the hell do you stand for.. far as I can tell not a whole lot.

                            But hey have it champ - you want to show you are so much better intellectually than me - great, you win. Hell you are a way better person than I. Smarter, funnier, all those things that count in an internet chat forum. You win the battles every time. I admit I can't hold a candle to you in any aspect of life.

                            There make you feel good?

                            Now, on with I/P DKos.

                            You keep saying that it's not possible right now. Ya think, Captain Obvious? unspeakable to me in a Fry'd Daze diary

                            by volleyboy1 on Sun Mar 07, 2010 at 09:12:07 PM PST

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                          •  Well, you do have a point. (1+ / 0-)
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                            callmecassandra

                            After all, I figured out why I don't like you months ago. :-))))

                          •  umm ok ... congrats (3+ / 0-)
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                            Red Sox, hikerbiker, Gatordiet

                            you are even faster at being insulting  - I can't compete with that.

                            You keep saying that it's not possible right now. Ya think, Captain Obvious? unspeakable to me in a Fry'd Daze diary

                            by volleyboy1 on Sun Mar 07, 2010 at 09:20:48 PM PST

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                          •  Actually, it didn't have anything to do (1+ / 0-)
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                            callmecassandra

                            with insults per se; much more with the utter thinness of the veneer of reasonableness you try to affect in your better moments.

                            Toodles!  You get the last word.  If you're really lucky, I might read it tomorrow.

                          •  Oh I hope and pray you do (3+ / 0-)
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                            Red Sox, hikerbiker, Gatordiet

                            please......

                            But I guess you know me better than anyone else. I am quite unreasonable and a real bastard when it comes down to it - right? But you... you see through me - it's like I was made of glass. Amazing. How do you do it?

                            You keep saying that it's not possible right now. Ya think, Captain Obvious? unspeakable to me in a Fry'd Daze diary

                            by volleyboy1 on Sun Mar 07, 2010 at 09:35:08 PM PST

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              •  VB, you're up againt the line there, buddy. (2+ / 0-)
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                volleyboy1, Gatordiet

                I'm not defending JayTee's positions or arguments (for they are certainly off the mark), but you've come a little too close to cheering Cast Lead, and the comparison of PTSD to dead children is a bit sour, don't you think?

                How many people in Sderot would trade places with the prisoners of Gaza or the dead of Gaza?  How vastly different are the living conditions in those two places - rockets or not?  Of course the rockets were wrong, but Cast Lead went way beyond reasonable in terms of response - making it every bit as wrong as the rocket attacks.

                You've crossed no line, but JayTee's silliness has really pushed your argument into a rashy turf where it doesn't normally go, and it's making me itch, man.

                Don't fight extreme with extreme.  It's unbecoming.

                Celtic Merlin
                Carlinist

                Sorry I couldn't take your call. I'm using my cell phone to make pancakes. Please leave a message.

                by Celtic Merlin on Sun Mar 07, 2010 at 07:21:57 PM PST

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          •  Why do you support ending the occupation? (2+ / 0-)
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            capelza, corvo

            It seems to bring the benighted Palestinians sooooo much freedom.

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