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  •  Last Month's Vanity Fair (none)
    .. did the same thing- a list of all the names and hometowns of soldiers who died.  That was poignant for me because I thought I would turn the page and it would end.  It didn't.. it kept going and going for 4 or 5 pages, every time I turned there were even more names.

    It's an absurd notion.. you cannot win a War on Terror.. it's like having a War on Jealousy- you ain't gonna win it, man. - David Cross

    by noshenanigans on Fri Mar 19, 2004 at 02:48:47 PM PST

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    •  media memorials (3.83)
      Are very moving and a good thing (the NewsHour's silent listing of the dead has brought me to tears several times), but . . .

      As a child watching television in 1970, I not only saw still photos of dead GI's who didn't look dead (because they looked like the kids in their high school year book that they had been a few months earlier), but I saw raw motion picture footage of American soldiers in obvious distress. Soldiers with shrapnel wounds on stretchers being loaded into helicopters. Soldiers under fire. Soldiers freaking out.

      I don't see any of that from Iraq. Since the vast majority of Americans get their news from TV, then the vast majority of Americans probably aren't that aware of what an American GI with a shrapnel wound getting loaded into a Humvee looks like. And since they don't know what it looks like, they don't really think it's happening.

      This is why we're desensitized; our view of this conflict has been highly censored. We're not so much desensitized as ignorant, while arabs are watching arab satellite TV that is far closer in its coverage of Iraq to what American network TV coverage of Vietnam was like.

      American watching Vietnam on TV had drastic repercussions. What about arabs watching Iraq on TV?

      •  TV Coverage (none)
        It makes you wonder, doesn't it?  In this war we had "embedded" reporters and sattelite-capable technology to broadcast real images home.  What happened: It was a propaganda-fest.  They tried to manipulate us with images that showed only the things that most Americans would find positive.  Remember all the accusations about the staged aspects of the Jessica Lynch rescue?  I do not put it above these bastards in the Whitehouse.

        "Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed people can change the world. Indeed it is the only thing that has." Margaret Mead

        by BigOkie on Fri Mar 19, 2004 at 06:31:48 PM PST

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        •  watching war coverage in Tokyo now (none)
          and telling the friend whose house I'm working in that these bloody, graphic, real images weren't shown on American TV-she was shocked. That the tears and anguish of an Iraqi man, that brought tears to both of us, just aren't seen by mainstream people who get their news primarily from TV. To say nothing of the human consequences of the administration's insanity. She couldn't understand it. I couldn't explain or condone it.

          My heart goes out to the families of everyone lost, and my prayers for the safe return of those who are still in country.

          Terri in Tokyo/AfAm4DFA

          •  To Terri (none)
            What media channels are you watching for those images.....I live in Japan too and I can't say I was battered with violent images...although I am extremely desensitized so maybe I just saw them and they didn't phase me at all...who knows....BS1, BS2 WOWOW?

            Don't blame me....I voted for Kodos!

            by coheninjapan on Fri Mar 19, 2004 at 10:03:22 PM PST

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