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  •  Whoa...Whoa....Whoa.... (1+ / 0-)
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    Take a breathe.... Newsday is quoting a lawyer who is citing a PORTION of a memo where someone NOT being deposed is ATTRIBUTING a statement to someone else they INTEND to depose and the PLAINTIFFS lawyers are opining about this in THE PRESS before the deposition... You see how it is possible this may be a misrepresentation?

    I say that because that is so beyond the pale of FDA's mandate that I can't see how a career person at that level was making any decisions based on that sort of thinking.

    Remember, the hold up on Plan B was purely POLITICAL.  The advisory panel had approved it.  The overruling of that was extremely rare. The director of the Food and Drug Administration's Office of Women's Health resigned in protest.

    Remember also, this is all being played out in the context of a legal court battle which is being played out in the press.... and it is only in Newsday.  No one else has picked this up that I can see.

    I'm not making any decisions on this one way or the other...but I think caution is strongly indicated.  

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    by 8ackgr0und N015e on Tue Apr 25, 2006 at 10:17:48 AM PDT

    •  Perhaps, but given the infiltration of this admin (2+ / 0-)
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      by the kind of wingers unseen in higher office since Ed Meese's porno police stalked the West Wing, it seems far from impossible. The fear that Plan B would encourage promiscuity among our precious flowers of adolescent femininity is, after all, the unstated rationale for keeping OTC Plan B off store shelves. The official rationale -- that its safety hasn't been adequately tested in under-16s -- doesn't make any goddamn sense at all, so I find this perfectly plausible.

      "Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety." -Benjamin Franklin

      by Septic Tank on Tue Apr 25, 2006 at 10:31:06 AM PDT

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      •  I'm not disputing the political play here... (1+ / 0-)
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        but that is why Crawford has not been replaced.  Clinton and Boxer(?) have made it clear they will not be conned again. No one comes up for confirmation unless they are going to let Plan B go OTC.

        Woodcock has been at FDA for 20 years.  That is why I find this story suspect.  If she was a recent appointee or something...it would be different.  Recent would be anytime in the last 5 years.

        I could imagine this completely hypothetical scenario:

        Bush appointee:  We can't put this on the market, think of what will happen if teenagers don't have to worry about getting pregnant..and if they did...being able to induce their own abortions!

        Woodcock: We have to make our decision based on safety and efficacy, just like the advisory panel. We are not in the business of trying to anticipate, or prevent extreme promiscuous behaviors such as the medication taking on an 'urban legend' status that would lead adolescents to form sex-based cults centered around the use of Plan B." That is not part of our mandate.

        Again, that is completely hypothetical.  However, recall the blow up over teenagers and anti-depressants?  One of the big issues was some people at FDA thought they should tell doctors how to prescribe..a drug already on the market.  Other people argued that was not part of FDA's legislated mandate.  

        If FDA is not going to tell docs how to use drugs already on the market ... why would someone who is a career person with decades of experience, at a high level who isn't even making this call to begin with (she is Chief of Operations) all of a sudden go completely off the rails and start trying to make decisions that would effectively legislate morality?  It just seems extraordinary.  

        Besides... read the quote ... it doesn't make sense even by itself.  Why would she refer to it attaining "Urban Legend" status?  The drug works. It has been prescribed for years.  We're not talking about people thinking they can give themselves Coca Cola douches and prevent pregnancy that way.  That was a common urban legend before the pill.

        Mything the Point ©:
        "Examining unexamined beliefs America accepts on faith value"

        by 8ackgr0und N015e on Tue Apr 25, 2006 at 11:04:49 AM PDT

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        •  Hope you're right (1+ / 0-)
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          And if so, I'll retract my poking fun at Woodcock's name. But many perfectly respectable longtime civil servants have fallen into lockstep with this administration -- whether out of fear, ambition or having been born again after Rev. Karl laid hands on 'em, and I will never, ever again make the mistake of assuming that we're dealing with rational actors.

          "Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety." -Benjamin Franklin

          by Septic Tank on Tue Apr 25, 2006 at 11:12:55 AM PDT

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          •  Uh, 20 yrs ago, who was... (0+ / 0-)

            appointing people to the FDA? Rotting in Hell Reagan I believe? And he NEVER appointed any whack jobs now did he?

            "I beg to dream and differ from the hollow lies." Green Day

            by UndercoverRxer on Tue Apr 25, 2006 at 01:05:23 PM PDT

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