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  •  Like the Dems aren't corrupt as well? (0+ / 0-)

    This 'we are better then them' shit is QUICKLY destroying the country...period.

    Term limits on House and Senate is takes a couple of years for politicians to 'hit their stride' and start taking money from special one term...don't like it?  Tough shit.

    OUR government is suppose to REPRESENT the AMERICAN PEOPLE...not themselves, which is what the government, both dems, repubs and independents are about.

    Sure a few House and Senate members diary here and everyone goes agaga over them and thing they are wonderful, but I think over their CAREER as a politician and think "WOW, would we be in this total SHITHOLE if these things would have been THOUGHT ABOUT decades ago"...where are the politicians morals and ethics...oh, they don't HAVE any.

    FUCK all of them.

    •  Term Limits (2+ / 0-)
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      Southern Son, nomad23

      I think term limits give advantages to those who are professionally involved in politics, but not involved in the system.  

      It allows people to influence younger members of the house and senate.  

      I have no problem with a career politician.  I think you get better as you progress through your career.  Besides, it's not as if politicians leave politics after their careers are over.  They just stay in politics in a different occupation. You'd probably end up with people jumping around from different elected post to elected post.  

      How about some public financing of elections?  That would eliminate a lot of he graft we have going on.

      •  We wouldn't have Louise Slaughter (11+ / 0-)

        in the House right now if there were term limits and then where would we be?  If you really look at this Congress on both sides of the Hill, some of the most important work going into protecting this republic is being done by people who have been there a long time.  Kennedy for 40 years - Conyers for 40+ - Slaughter how many decades?  

        Look at the really dangerous people on the Hill and you'll note that many of them have been there for a relatively short time.  I'll stick with the system the Founding Fathers set up for sending people home when they don't perform for their consituents - voting.

    •  Eff 'em All... (0+ / 0-)

      We would just be returning the favor, Old Testiment fashion.

      Hey, there at least 10 good men up there so put a hold on the fire and brimstone :-)  

      •  My beef with Bobjack (1+ / 0-)
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        Hamish in CT

        I was posting on another site.  A poster there said that people on the left called Michelle Malkin a gook.  I said that a post like that would have been zeroed out on Kos.  Unfortunately, yours wasn't.  

        •  Read c;loser (1+ / 0-)
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          Hamish in CT

          I don't really care if you have a beef with me or not; But you ought have a good reason to claim one.

          I was not calling her a gook I was indicating that that's how too many on her side (the right) see Asians of all stripes and that she is therefore serving a lot of people and a bent philosophy that in the end would shaft her.

          But you should have know that and if so why do you bring this up? She probably knows that and is after the pay check anyway. That's why I also (and did) call her a whore. You got that Otto? I suspect whoever at Daily Kos you thought would limit that comment got it...are you a wolf in sheep’s clothing...a dulopoly operative... or, and I hope simply mistaken?

    •  If 'better than' means moral (3+ / 0-)
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      TheBlaz, NearlyNormal, Hamish in CT

      and ethical, with a conscience and a basic sense of right and very, very wrong, then we are better than the ones who support this administration.  Smarter, too.

    •  You're Wrong (6+ / 0-)

      If you think things are bad now, things would be infinitely worse if there were one-term term limits for members of Congress.  All legislation then would be written by outside interests and staff members.  Instead of having measures considered by elected members of Congress, legislation would be written by the unelected few.

      Congress would be run by the monied interests because a regular man or woman would not have a chance against a well-funded opponent.

      Rabid partisanship is bad for the country, but your fix is wrong.

      •  Great point. (1+ / 0-)
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        Better to have experienced people in there than one-term people. Congressional bills and actions have long-term application and long-term effects on us all.

        Why wouldn't we want long-term politicians working on it?

        And one-term limit won't stop corruption, it'll just give us new corrupt people every term.

        "If more parents home disciplined [their kids] there would be fewer people I have to smack in public." --Wilzerd Balefire.

        by TheBlaz on Fri Apr 28, 2006 at 08:58:23 AM PDT

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    •  your wrong, we need public financing of campaigns (1+ / 0-)
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      that is the only way to fix this problem

    •  way to spew fox news talking points (3+ / 0-)
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      TaraIst, Southern Son, nomad23

      All politicians are the same.  Democrats do it too.  Blah blah.  I am sick and tired of this crap.

      Republicans are leading this country (hell, the world) off a cliff and Democrats are the only way to stop it.  Do you realize that in your post you are equating somebody like Russ Feingold with someone like Duke 'gimmee hookers and porcelin toilets' Cunningham?  They are identical to you?  Idiocy.

      Oh and one term only is the single worst, stupidest, idea I have ever heard.  You want batch after batch of people elected with no incentive to seek re-election?  The only people who will run for office will be people with verious extreme viewpoints who want to get in there and radically alter the nation as much as possible, or enrich themselves as much as possible, in their one term, and never face the ire of voters.

      It turns out that Bush IS a uniter... he united the intelligent half of the country virulently against him.

      by fizziks on Fri Apr 28, 2006 at 09:53:14 AM PDT

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    •  Term limits sound good (1+ / 0-)
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      Southern Son

      They have been at best ineffectual, and at worst counterproductive, in California.  It is structurat reform that is needed.  Campaign financing laws that open the public airwaves to the public business without charge and in time frames that exceed sound-bite parameters would go a longt ways toward removing the overt corruption in politics.

      Term limits just brings in a new batch of wannabe lobbyists every couple of years.

      "I said, 'wait a minute, Chester, you know I'm a peaceful man.'" Robbie Robertson -8.13, -4.56

      by NearlyNormal on Fri Apr 28, 2006 at 11:01:30 AM PDT

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