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  •  except, of course (0+ / 0-)
    if you break your leg hiking down the Firehole Valley or up north in bear country, at which time cell phone coverage might seem pretty appealing.

    Though I concede the convenience will be mostly used by nacho-munching, fanny-packed Runnamucka drivers calling their friends to challenge, "Guess where I am?"

    Keep smiling. Drives 'em bats.

    by Crashing Vor on Sun May 07, 2006 at 07:41:57 AM PDT

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    •  It's the chance you take (5+ / 0-)

      As one conservationist has said "It's not wilderness unless there's something there bigger and meaner that can kill and eat you".

      You simply do what wilderness travelers have been doing for millenia; travel in groups, know first aid, and know how to get yourself out of trouble.

      •  locators. (0+ / 0-)

        mt climbers rent them.  why not at pks?
        but, i'm with you.  folks take reedickalous chances at natl pks thinking it's somehow safe, like disneyland.  i'm thinking about the time i watched a nitwit and his kids almost fall in the grand canyon of the yellowstone--it's frickin nature, and nature will out, so watch out!

        •  What is a locator, exactly? (1+ / 0-)
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          The concept is kind of obvious, now that you mention it, and thank you for that. I've hiked in Glacier National Park a lot over the years, and I've not seen them available there. If they were available, it would solve the dilemma posed by crashing vor and Ed. Good Idea!

          I follow Ed's advice in Glacier and only hike with groups of four or more. Believe me, the two times I've accidentally come within spitting distance of a mama griz, I've been extemely grateful for that bit of wisdom.

          •  Locators I think (1+ / 0-)
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            Are emergency beacons that send a message and your location to a satellite system in case of an emergency. Their called EPIRGS when you have them on commecial fishing boats, and I'm not sure what you call them in small aircraft.

            When I've gone on really remote trips to the Arctic Refuge and the Northwest Territories, we have rented a sat phone, which we never use unless there's a dire emergency. The nature writer Ted Williams has a recent book out on canoeing in the Northwest Territories where his partner brings a sat phone and calls home half a dozen times a day. Williams can't stand it because it seems more like a trip to the mall than a wilderness trip.

            Count, you are pretty sharp on hiking in a larger group in Glacier. I think there has never been a bear attack on a group of four or five or more. When I hike in the Bob Marshall, it's always been with  a couple of people and our two dogs, and I've run into grizz only twice in 25 years.

            •  i agree on the emergency phone. (1+ / 0-)
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              Ed in Montana

              i would go NUTS if on a hike i had to listen to a cell phone conversation, which are usually about nothing, and where the caller YELLS like owen meany instead of talks!
              not hiking much these days with my bad knee.  just short ones.  got ice? (on those glaciers for the swelling?)

          •  since this is old i'll respond to both (0+ / 0-)

            on mt hood, the most climbed mt i think?, has so many tragedies, the powers that be started to rent some kind of device that hikers could wear that would transmit a signal down the hill to the gear shop, so in the event of a glissade gone wrong they could find the hiker.  it's worked beautifully.  so, that is for part of nature.  now, not sure how that could help for grizzlies, except to let them know where to find the body...

      •  Would that include kids? (0+ / 0-)

        What if say a kid is stung by a bee and needs medical evac? has asthma attack? gets lost?

        I'm not sure that's worth an aesthetic appreciation of time out of place with modern life.

    •  easy solution (1+ / 0-)
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      Ed in Montana

      The government can block all calls except to 911.

      Problem solved, I'm going for coffee. :o)

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