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  •  According to the article (11+ / 0-)

    it sounded like the NSA tried to "bribe", in a way, Qwest by alluding to the fact that they already had govt. contracts.

    You know how it goes...

    "Well, if you want any more contracts, you'd better pony up them records.....oh you don't want to? What, you're a turrurist? Well, we'll see how much future business that gets you with the United Corporations of America now, you big buzzkill!"


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    by Stand Strong on Thu May 11, 2006 at 06:31:51 AM PDT

    •  AT&T and NSA (5+ / 0-)

      Probably didn't have to bribe or pressure AT&T.

      If you read James Bramford's books on the NSA, you'll learn that AT&T has a very long history of illegally working with the NSA.

      At one point, Congress had passed a law forbidding the government from spying by reading people's telegrams.  The NSA then made a side-deal with some AT&T employees/executives where the AT&T folks continued to hand-deliver all the telegrams that passed through its system over to the NSA folks anyways.  This went on for decades, and all in violation of a law Congress had passed.

      The lawsuit in OR is interesting.  The lawyers in that suit have documents from an AT&T employee that basically says that the NSA is so plugged into AT&T's system that they can intercept any call in the system ... domestic or international.

      Wouldn't surprise me if this "phone number database" story was just another layer of cover stories trying to hide the fact that they really are listening to domestic calls.  There's something there that Bushies have been parsing words very carefully to avoid revealing, and I wouldn't be too sure that this database story is the full extent of it yet.

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      by COBear on Thu May 11, 2006 at 08:40:55 AM PDT

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      •  I have a friend who works in the Government (1+ / 0-)
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        section of AT&T. He says we have no idea of the types of things the government is doing.

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        by maggiemae on Thu May 11, 2006 at 10:19:50 AM PDT

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        •  Oh god... (1+ / 0-)
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          I wish your friend would talk... but I understand that would be a HUGE deal.

          •  whistleblower minus retirement package= (0+ / 0-)

            broke & screwed

            This is not just in any way, but under the current administration when justice meets reality, justice seems to take it in the shorts every time.

            Not only has justice been blinded, but she looks like an Abu Ghraib prisoner!

            Nothing short of an aroused public can change things, nothing less than democracy is at stake- Bill Moyers

            by maggiemae on Thu May 11, 2006 at 01:16:36 PM PDT

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            •  Yeah... (1+ / 0-)
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              Remember how Rumsfeld repeatedly refused to even suggest he would protect the person who blew the whistle on Abu Ghraib?

              Yeah. I think everyone got the message. "If you blow the whistle on this administration we won't protect you from retribution. We might try to indirectly kill your wife, though."

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              by Shapeshifter on Thu May 11, 2006 at 01:53:37 PM PDT

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    •  Bush Administration = Sopranos (1+ / 0-)
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      But the Sopranos have more class.

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      by tmo on Thu May 11, 2006 at 10:33:27 AM PDT

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