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  •  the govt computers are our computers (0+ / 0-)
    And blocking access to protected speech is un-American.  I'm done beating around the bush here.

    In God we trust. All others must pay cash.

    by yet another liberal on Wed Jun 21, 2006 at 10:13:23 AM PDT

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    •  Again (1+ / 0-)
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      At work companies are well within their rights to restrict employees' usage. You can't go to a job and surf at pornography. If you want to do it on your own time, that's fine. But at work the company does have the right to restrict employee usage on its on computers.

      The same thing applies to government employees. The Commonwealth of KY is well within its legal rights to restrict how its computers are used. If they want to block political blogs, it should be bipartisan. But frankly KY does have the right to regulate how its governmental employees use their computers. I'm sure that employees looking at porn would be fired.

      I'm not saying this is right. Just saying that KY is within its rights to restrict access to certain websites on computers paid for by taxpayer dollars.

      •  good job (3+ / 0-)
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        political speech == porn.

        I'm afraid not Jaicinto, not in this country.

        And since this diary is about blocking only certain web-sites your arguments are nothing but strawmen.

        They are easy to defeat.

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        by yet another liberal on Wed Jun 21, 2006 at 10:21:20 AM PDT

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        •  it is a valid point (0+ / 0-)

          The government acting as an employer can restrict what employees can do in ways that it can't restrict what citizens can do. It is within their rights as an employer to regulate what employees can do with computers. Where it gets complicated is with employees whose jobs require unfiltered access and in places where state-owned computers are legitmately used by non-employees. The point I was trying to make is that filtering is a stupid way to regulate employee usage - it costs a lot of money, causes a lot of problems, doesn't really work, and invariably is used to regulate websites in a biased way. I think misuse of the internet/computers by employees should be handled as a per-individual discipline issue the same way misuse of any other infrastructure at work would be.

          "The power to dominate rests on the differential possession of knowledge" -Foucault

          by Jett on Wed Jun 21, 2006 at 10:27:31 AM PDT

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          •  So, let's say, instead of filtering ... (1+ / 0-)
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            ... they do logging.  THEN, when they see you visited dkos, you get fired.

            Employers don't own me.

            We can parse legal strawmen all day, but we evade an important question ... what is the true spirit of freedom?

            Certainly, it doesn't make your employer your new tyrant watching what you read!

            If you aren't getting your work done, that's one thing, but this is another.  This is effectively censorship and intimidation and it is utterly un-American.

            In God we trust. All others must pay cash.

            by yet another liberal on Wed Jun 21, 2006 at 10:35:24 AM PDT

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            •  Again (0+ / 0-)

              If it were my company I probably wouldn't care what sites my employees visited as long as they didn't go to porn and/or gambling sites and or posted information that could damage the company's reputation or assets. However, again, companies are well within their right to restrict their employees' Internet access and/or web sites they visit. It's their computer so they can tell what their employees what they can and can't do with their property. If you don't like the company's rules, then go work somewhere else.

              I don't necessarily agree with some companies that are very restrictive with Internet access, but they do have the right to devise those policies. And again, if you don't like the rules, go work somewhere else.

        •  Hey... (0+ / 0-)

          Pornography could be political speech, if it weren't for our totally brain-dead "definition" of pornography.

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          by Shapeshifter on Wed Jun 21, 2006 at 12:05:10 PM PDT

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