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  •  We're speculating... (none)
    And I fell into that trap as well.

    We shouldn't speculate as to the real motive for what these people were doing there, is my opinion. My problem is that we just don't know what they were doing.

    I was responding to aimee's comment directly (I quoted it); if she's wrong, then my response there doesn't have relevence, obviously.

    •  I just don't agree. (none)
      Its true we can't know what the iraqi's thought and that they may have thought these guys were soldiers and been willing to attack them, or they may have thought these were not soldiers and been willing to attack them. And they may or may not have believed that whoever these guys were our military would respond to the attack. and our military may or may not treat these particular deaths as, for all purposes, identical to attacks on our forces. None of that is really relevant except insofar as we are trying to prevent future attacks on all persons in the Iraqi war zone, and trying to prevent confusion between who is and who is not a lawful combatant.

      Not wearing uniforms is the first mark of not being a legal soldier, for purposes of waging legitimate war.  If the Iraqis killed them thinking they were spies, or profiteers, or whatever they weren't "wrong" in the sense of "incorrect" though they may have been "wrong" in the sense of "I don't like my fellow countrymen to be killed" (which is true). But my wants/desires don't come into it. I wasn't consulted by bushco in going into this war, and none of these mercenaries took me and what I wanted into account when they decided to take themselves into a war zone for profit.

      However, these mercenaries and the whole outsourcing of our military and its duties is blurring the line between lawful combatants and civilian contractors in ways that are going to come back and bite us in the ass.

      You may want to separate this conclusion from righteous emotional response "Oh no!: people are being killed!" and somehow think of them at different moments or in different discussions but I don't. I don't because the fact that these deaths got on the six o'clock news doesn't make them the most signficant to me. The fact that these deaths happened to my compatriots doesn't make them the most signficant to me. These deaths are some in a number of deaths foretold, and a number of deaths of incredible sorrow and savagry: iraqi civilians? radiation sickness deaths from depleted uranium? raped women in the cities we haven't secured? the families of people dancing on those bridges? the soldiers who were, without fanfare or acknowledgement, killed on the same day? The children and other people who have or will be killed when we figure out what the appropriate military response is to these deaths?

      I am darned if I see why my emotional reponse to these four deaths should be dictated by you, or by any considerations other than those I've laid out above.  

      aimai

      •  "the line" (none)
        "However, these mercenaries and the whole outsourcing of our military and its duties is blurring the line between lawful combatants and civilian contractors in ways that are going to come back and bite us in the ass."

        It's not blurrring the line, it's crossing it.

        I am not currently Licensed to Practice in this State.

        by ben masel on Fri Apr 02, 2004 at 05:34:12 PM PST

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