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  •  That there is no narrative, (4+ / 0-)

    other than Brooks', that covers this entire dustup. Kos has posted reactive snippets of narrative. Brooks has posted a complete story.

    Which is undoubtedly a pack of lies, but without a complete story from our side, Brooks' story will stand.

    I sympathize with Markos' desire not to become the story. But in this case he IS, and for the sake of his credibility he needs to deal with it coherently, in one place, in one article,

    In one narrative.

    This is too important to screw up. The charge is serious. The credibility of this blog is at stake. IF MARKOS DOESN'T ANSWER BROOKS, BROOKS WINS! At least he wins this round.

    It's touching to see the loyalty here, though it comes at the expense of a diarist with a serious question having the shit kicked out of her. Doesn't change the fact that Markos needs to present a narrative.


    •  Oh nonsense. (2+ / 0-)
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      I understand your point and I'm sure Kos is aware of what Brooks is trying to do.  Fact is, there have been several diaries here that have pretty well debunked all those stories.

      To claim that the diarist has "serious questions" is laughable.  She has changed her "serious questions" several times by now.

      As far as the credibility of this blog being at stake, that is your opinion, and I disagree with it.

      Let's see what happens.  I think you are wrong and I think time will tell.

      •  P.S.: (1+ / 0-)
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        and those stories have provided quite a good narrative.  I assume you have read them?

        •  To the best of my ability (0+ / 0-)

          but the story is spread thin and needs to be collected in one place. Hope Markos is more mature than his acolytes.

          Not that you're one :> (deliberate snark because you and I disagree - please don't troll-rate me for it!)

          I agree with "let's see what happens", but serious charges from serious places require serious responses. Which is my entire point, snark aside.


          •  I have no problem with what you're saying. (2+ / 0-)
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            And if you posted a diary about narrative I would be more than willing to discuss it.  There already have been many diaries that indeed have discussed this very point, and I'm as curious as you to see how Kos plays it.  But to suggest that this diary is about someone who honestly wishes to understand the story is, I believe, mistaken.

            As far as my maturity ... well ... sometimes, sometimes not.  :)

          •  I see what you mean. (5+ / 0-)

            It's not like cogent, concise summaries were given. Like this:

            Jerome is a friend to kos. He got into a situation over his head many years ago when he was in college and didn't have the financial means with which to properly defend himself and the law required that he make a bad plea bargain.

            That's what happens in law. You don't get do-overs. When you screw up the beginning of the case and your paperwork isn't all in order, it can't be undone.

            Can't speak for kos, but if it were my friend and they were under a court order to not speak or defend themselves, I would do exactly what kos did.

            by bronte17 on Sun Jun 25, 2006 at 01:11:00 AM EDT

            Or this:

            The e-mail that Kos sent asked folks on a private e-mail list not to discuss an SEC proceeding against Jerome Armstrong because Jerome has entered into an agreement with the SEC where he cannot discuss the case until the case is settled.  The case has not settled yet as to all parties so Jerome is not free to talk.  This obviously puts Jerome in an awkward position.  There are some excellent diaries discussing the SEC legal proceedings.  

            The presentation of your diary suggests that Kos was asking people not to address whether Kos made favorable comments on Daily Kos about politicians who employ Jerome Armstrong.  Kos emphatically denies this.    

            by eafredel on Sun Jun 25, 2006 at 12:12:37 AM EDT

          •  What if the serious response (3+ / 0-)
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            is legal action? Any attorney worth their salt would probably tell Kos not to say anything publicly if he is considering such a course of action.

            Just a thought.

            Diarist: Accusing Kos of a "crime" (your title does) doesn't seem to me to be a very smart move. You may want to edit it, since you are oblivious to calls to remove it. (I'd make a snarky comment about two brain cells to rub together, but it's late.) It' especially unwise to throw about "crime" without proof. Or is this diary "purely symbolic"?

            "As you get older, you get less willing to buy the latest version of reality." Leonard Cohen

            by mentaldebris on Sat Jun 24, 2006 at 11:23:50 PM PDT

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    •  You consider that overheated stream of (2+ / 0-)
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      wordy consciousness a "narrative"?

      Shakespeare Brooks is most certainly not.

    •  Yes and No (1+ / 0-)
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      This story is already big in blogland but it is not really big outside of the blogs and probably will not become so.
      However, you are right in that Armstrong and also Kos (both in person and in terms of this site) are taking a beating at the moment. The story at blog level is not going away, and hence you are right here that a full non-reactive and forceful narrative is needed now. If that cannot be done for legal reasons that is sad because in a few months time the whole affair may be beyond redemption at the level of blogs. However, lets keep this in perspective in the real big outside world blogs are still only a small part of it, so any damage will be limited.

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