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  •  Isn't Baker famous for saying 'Fuck the Jews, (0+ / 0-)

    they don't vote for us anyway" or something nearly identical?

    Don't get me wrong... I'd welcome anyone who can tame this beast.  But Baker is part of an old school conservative GOP which did not have a huge amount of love for Israel (think Pat Buchanan and Robert Novak and, of course, Ronald Reagan) Indeed, historically the GOP has been much more skeptical about Israel than the Democrats. That changed when the evangelicals put a mask on their inclination towards racial and religious purity in favor of the "rapture" thesis, in which a unified Israel was a requirement.

    Loonies all...

    "...history is a tragedy not a melodrama" - I.F. Stone

    by bigchin on Sat Jul 15, 2006 at 09:55:47 AM PDT

    •  This won't be solved by love for Israel (0+ / 0-)

      It will only be solved by relentless, tireless, objective, hard-headed, blunt and pragmatic diplomacy.

      If you expect progress from an American mediator who 'likes', 'loves', or 'supports' Israel (or the Palestinians for that matter), I fear you will be very disappointed.

      -2.38 -4.87: Maturity - Doing what you know is right even though you were told to do it.

      by grapes on Sat Jul 15, 2006 at 02:28:08 PM PDT

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      •  I agree (0+ / 0-)

        and I wasn't making the point that a mediator has to "love" Israel.  My point is that Bush will never send Baker because Israel won't work with him.

        And, sadly, I don't expect progress at all.  The "tireless, objective, hard-headed, blunt and pragmatic diplomacy" will never happen.  As far as American policy is concerned: Israel is our ally, end of story.

        There are no "level" heads in American politics regarding Israel.  

        "...history is a tragedy not a melodrama" - I.F. Stone

        by bigchin on Sun Jul 16, 2006 at 08:41:07 AM PDT

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