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  •  I wish I could could give you 10 check marks (4+ / 0-)
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    mbc, TiaRachel, Fabian, anais

    For this instead of just one. You hit the nail on the head. Capitalism may be fine when it comes to many sectors of our economy, but NOT to health care! And unfortunatly, too many of the "national health care" proposals advanced by the Democrats would merely shift the costs of a broken system onto the taxpayers.

    We need to say the words, folks: "socialized medicine". Not "national health care" or even "single payer" but, yes, "socialized medicine." True, it has its problems too and is no panacea, but what is? If we went at it with the best interests of the public in mind and let health care professionals and not the government and insurance companies run the system, we can make it work.

    •  general welfare (3+ / 0-)
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      i keep thinking about that phrase in the very very first sentence of the constitution "promote the general welfare".

      That should be a plus blue ribbon golden rule number one when it comes to ANYTHING touching on the topic of healthcare.

      I'm kind of stalling for time here...They told me what to say. George W Bush, 03-21-2006 10:00 EST Press Conference

      by Tamifah on Fri Jul 21, 2006 at 04:51:46 AM PDT

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      •  The Myth of the Market (6+ / 0-)
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        mbc, elfling, Tamifah, snowmoon, anais, ignatz uk

        The problem is in part that the conservative movement has cultivated the notion that the capitalist marketplace is somehow value-neutral, a mechanism for allocating resources according to people's real desires, and thus a true manifestation of human freedom, as opposed to anything government does, which is arbitrary.
        The market is not neutral, because money follows money, and success however gained breeds more success.
        Decisions as to what goods and services are available get made not on the basis of what everyone most wants, or objectively needs, but on the basis of where lies the greatest prospect of gain for the few big players.
        Hence all the attention to the development of expensive pharmaceuticals. Not that they aren't valuable, but far less expensive public health measures - more restrictions on tobacco, using the health care system to encourage better preventive care - would do much more to improve the health of more people; and they don't get done because there's no profit in them for anyone.
        Suppose some scientist has the idea that a simple, readily available, inexpensive food item, if eaten regularly, could reduce the rate of some cancer. I'll bet he/she would have a much harder time getting the funding to do the tests to prove the case than if it were a matter of something someone could make and sell for a lot of money.
        Markets have their place, like Captain Frogbert I am not anti-capitalist; but government needs to reclaim an independent voice to speak in the public interest. Meaning the people must reclaim the government.

        •  capitalism is all about (0+ / 0-)

          me getting all the money. so ok that's fine when it comes to selling you cable tv, or internets, or car insurance, or frosted flakes.

          but when it comes to your personal health, that should be more important to me than getting dollars.

          so it's not just one of the points where lassiez-faire doesn't do so hot, it's a moral failing on the part of those doing the business.

          I'm kind of stalling for time here...They told me what to say. George W Bush, 03-21-2006 10:00 EST Press Conference

          by Tamifah on Fri Jul 21, 2006 at 05:51:10 AM PDT

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