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  •  Of those 183 scientists... (0+ / 0-)

    ...asked to exclude or alter data, how many acquiesced and just did what they were told?

    I'm sorta glad they didn't say, because that's the number that scares me the most.

    What's your guess as to the number? Mine: 182.

    •  Good question n/t (0+ / 0-)

      Read UTI, your free thought forum

      by DarkSyde on Sat Jul 22, 2006 at 05:02:13 AM PDT

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    •  I'd probably have done it, in their shoes... (0+ / 0-)

      ..but not felt very good about it.

      The trouble is, there's really no good place to do scientific research in this country any more.  

      Academia is moving more and more away from the "tenure" system -- tenure track positions keep going down every year, and grant funding (dependent on Bush and the NIH) is starting to shrink, too.  Meanwhile, the number of people looking for science jobs keeps going up.

      Private industry is in it for themselves.  Pay well, have lots of jobs, but you give up your ethics at the door, pretty much.  And at best, you work your damndest to make someone else rich.  That's the real, and only, point.

      And working directly for Uncle Sam?  The NIH has been heavily corrupted by Big Pharma, and to work elsewhere means you get the full dose of Lysenkoism.

      Most scientist will fake whatever data they have to fake, and wait for more sane leadership.  It goes too long, though, and we may find them deserting the country.  After all, it was the German scientists that we gave a haven to from Nazi Germany that pretty much gave us the atomic bomb, and ultimately helped build our modern aerospace industry.

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