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  •  Us atheists on the whole seem to be a considerate (0+ / 0-)

    group of people who usaully just live and let live. Most of the current day conflicts, atrocities and massacres seem to be caused by non-atheists. Dont know why that is: dont know why we have such a hard time in our own country too as we aint exactly starting fights or evangelically trying to convert.
    There is a lot of misunderstanding and sadly fear of "atheists". It is another one of those labels like but on a somewhat lesser degree to "terrorist"

    •  Consider... (4+ / 0-)

      Us atheists on the whole seem to be a considerate group of people who usaully just live and let live.

      There are lots of atheists who can be intolerant, petty, bigoted, etc. There's nothing about atheism which can make a person more decent, rational, or fair than anyone else.

      In the context of this discussion, however, what you say has an important element of truth: despite how much atheists criticize religion and theism, when was the last time you encountered an atheist who refused to vote for theists for public office? I'm sure that a few must exist, but I've never heard of it. Compare that to theists who are willing to state outright that they wouldn't vote for atheists for public office.

      •  You put it better than i could (0+ / 0-)

        in the terms you employ. thank you

      •  Given the choice... (0+ / 0-)

        ...who is to say many wouldn't?  

        •  Maybe, Maybe Not (0+ / 0-)

          Given the choice...who is to say many wouldn't?

          It's possible, but I've never heard it expressed in any way, shape, or form. Ergo, there's no basis for believing that it really would happen.

          We can, however, be sure that they wouldn't necessarily vote for a person just because they are atheists. The condemnation of Larry Darby was almost 100% universal, for example.

          •  Its a non-point (0+ / 0-)

            Atheists (and alomst every other American) certainly factor religious considerations into their decision making process.

            •  Maybe for you... (0+ / 0-)

              Atheists (and alomst every other American) certainly factor religious considerations into their decision making process.

              Do they? I've never given any thought to a person's religion before voting for them.

              Maybe what you describe is true about you, but don't presume that everyone else is just like you.

              "If you do the right thing for the wrong reasons, the work becomes corrupted, impure, and ultimately self-destructive."

              by AtheismGuide on Sat Jul 29, 2006 at 11:57:00 AM PDT

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              •  Sure (0+ / 0-)

                You've never considered whether someone was too fundementalist for you?

                •  No, I Don't (0+ / 0-)

                  You've never considered whether someone was too fundementalist for you?

                  Whether they were too much of a religious fundamentalist for me? No, I look at their political policies and ideas.

                  "If you do the right thing for the wrong reasons, the work becomes corrupted, impure, and ultimately self-destructive."

                  by AtheismGuide on Sat Jul 29, 2006 at 01:54:20 PM PDT

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                  •  snout... (0+ / 0-)

                    This is another in the "hey it's pervasive, so deal with it losers!" series.

                    People certainly factor a lot of things into voting. One is religion. Another is race. Another is gender. While the latter two have faded in importance, and people are willing to consider someone different than them, the former remains strong. That divergence is relavant to this diary.

                    I certainly don't consider someone who is 'fundamentalist' as inherently unqualified to be in public office, so I would not apply a that litmus test prior to evaluating the program. That is the issue here -- the presence of an overarching criterion that trumps all other considerations. In fact, many fundamentalists might be some of the best agents, depending on their how they define that, but I'd have to see how it translates into policy to judge.

                    You're right though, people do a lot of stuff. So I don't know why we get all bent out of shape about it. Minorities are such complainers!

                    •  why... (0+ / 0-)

                      This is another in the "hey it's pervasive, so deal with it losers!" series.

                      I really don't understand that attitude. I suppose I can understand being so depressed at the pervasiveness of a problem that one loses the desire to fight it, but I don't understand maintaining a passion to argue that others shouldn't take the trouble to fight it either.

                      "If you do the right thing for the wrong reasons, the work becomes corrupted, impure, and ultimately self-destructive."

                      by AtheismGuide on Sat Jul 29, 2006 at 03:08:04 PM PDT

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