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  •  Hey buddy (23+ / 0-)

    Please go away.  I hope you are paid for by the Lieberman camp, because if you are not, your really don't know what you are talking about. Have you ever had a family member ill in the hospital, dying from some illness, or in a vegetative state? It is a nightmare, I know from personal experience. I cannot imagine the increase in stress, the rage and pain that would have been added if politicians got involved.

    Once it got to the courts it was a matter for the courts, not politicians. I hope you never have to face the pain that Michael had endured, but please don't defend Joe on this one. It was WRONG what he did.

    Impossible is nothing

    by DrSpike on Sun Jul 30, 2006 at 07:27:14 PM PDT

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    •  The courts are part of the government (0+ / 0-)

      We talk about checks and balances, that goes for the courts as well. Once the issue became a court matter, the government was involved and it was no longer a private family decision.

      Far better that the family would have somehow worked it out themselves as happens in almost all these cases.

      •  A court case between family members (6+ / 0-)

        http://www.thenation.com/...

        Two days after Whittemore released his decision, a panel of the 11th circuit court of appeals backed him up. The judges wrote:

        We agree that the plaintiffs [Schiavo's parents] have failed to demonstrate a substantial case on the merits of any of their claims. We also conclude that the district court's carefully thought-out decision to deny temporary relief in these circumstances [that is, restoring the feeding tube] is not an abuse of discretion.

        The judges also noted,

        There is no denying the absolute tragedy that has befallen Mrs. Schiavo. We all have our own family, our own loved ones, and our own children. However, we are called upon to make a collective, objective decision concerning a question of law.

        The "lawmakers" of the Republican party had tossed aside this notion by butting into the Schiavo case. They did not seek to change a law; they sought to change one decision they did not like. In doing so, they made claims that were not true. Moreover religious right crusaders and other backers of the Schiavo legislation demonized Michael Schiavo, Terri's husband. . .

        Why did the elected Republicans interfere in a family case?

        http://www.cnn.com/...

        With their court battles apparently exhausted, supporters of Terri Schiavo's parents said Sunday that they would take their efforts to Washington on Monday.

        The Rev. Patrick Mahoney, a conservative Christian activist who has become a prominent figure in the protests over Schiavo's case, said he will go to Washington to plead with congressional leaders and the Bush administration to enforce a subpoena issued March 18 by a House committee for the 41-year-old woman to appear before Congress. . .

        Appealing to an extreme voter segment/divisive issue, distracting from nationally important matters at the time.  Like, Iraq.

        So, please stay where you are. Don't move and don't panic. Don't take off your shoes! Jobs is on the way.

        by wader on Sun Jul 30, 2006 at 08:47:09 PM PDT

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        •  It astounds me. (2+ / 0-)
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          The Rev. Patrick Mahoney, a conservative Christian activist who has become a prominent figure in the protests over Schiavo's case, said he will go to Washington to plead with congressional leaders and the Bush administration to enforce a subpoena issued March 18 by a House committee for the 41-year-old woman to appear before Congress. . .

          And those same people refuse to issue subpoenas to the Bushies about openly violating FISA, the Fourth Amendment, Article II of the Constitution, etc. etc....

      •  It was ALWAYS a court matter (4+ / 0-)
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        and the court was handling it according to the procedures established by the legislature, the SAME procedures that apply today.

        The loser in a lawsuit appealed to the legislative body to grant itself the judicial power in this ONE case, on a level with NO jurisdiction.

        What exactly point are you trying to make?

        Men never do evil so completely and cheerfully as when they do it from a religious conviction. - Pascal

        by Clem Yeobright on Sun Jul 30, 2006 at 08:49:03 PM PDT

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        •  sounds like (0+ / 0-)

          2000 when SCOTUS decided that bush the coward should be preznit.

        •  The Florida Courts, Legislature and Governor (0+ / 0-)

          had all been battling over this for years.  The introduction of the federal government was just one more step in an inter-governmental battle.

          The private family battle had been turned over to the government to deal with for years.

          •  Huh? Are you nuts? (0+ / 0-)

            A suit was filed, the court ruled in favor of Michael Shchiavo, the parents appealed, the appeals court ruled that the lower court had appropriately followed the law . . .

            Yes, the parents then went to the media and involved the governor and the legislature of Florida. The court asserted its proper role against them.

            How does that become a federal issue?

            Are you serious in what you say?  Do you feel the legislature should review every civil and criminal court ruling, and the Congress every state court ruling? Nah, you're just trolling, aren't you? Okay, I'll give you what you are looking for; we always aim to please!

            Men never do evil so completely and cheerfully as when they do it from a religious conviction. - Pascal

            by Clem Yeobright on Mon Jul 31, 2006 at 04:07:55 PM PDT

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