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  •  I keep playing two nighmares in my mind..... (1+ / 0-)
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    The first is where Ned Lamont wins the primary, and Leiberman decides he likes his job so much that he runs as an Independant.  The democrats split their votes between him and Lamont and Schlesinger wins the seat.

    Nightmare number two is that Leiberman wins and decides that after all the dissent from Democrats, he actually is a Republican and switches parties (not implausible given Joe Kline's speculation that Leiberman was actually trying to get both the Democratic and GOP endorsements this election) thus giftwrapping a senate seat for the GOP.

    I hope someone of reason can prevail upon the Senator to calmly and quietly go away if (when?) he loses in the primary.

    •  I Don't See Either Scenario as Very Likely (4+ / 0-)
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      If Joe runs as an independent, he's running about even with Lamont.  A Lamont victory in the primary is likely to give him a boost, and CT voters are getting a good taste of Joementum and I think they are finding it a little sour.  If anything, Schlesinger and Joementum are splitting the Republican vote.  I don't see many ways for Schlesinger to win, even if Lamont and Lieberman split Democratic votes.

      I find the second scenario even less likely.  CT is a blue state, and they don't take kindly to turncoats.

      You can have your "Under God" back when I get my "Liberty and Justice For All" back.

      by karateexplosions on Mon Jul 31, 2006 at 05:45:11 AM PDT

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      •  You are probably right (1+ / 0-)
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        but that's the thing about nightmares:  they are not often rational and prey on the person's worst fears.

        Re: turncoats -- Minnesota is a blue state, too, but they elected Norm Coleman after he bailed on the DFL.

        My point is that, althought Leiberman is not the ideal Senator from our point of view, he at least caucuses with the Democrats, and that is worth something.  Would I rather see Ned Lamont in office?  Yes, despite the fact that he is inexperienced.  I think his positions on the issues more than makes up for that.  But can I tolerate another 6 years of Leiberman if the alternative means losing control of the Senate?  You bet I can.

        •  After Witnessing Joementum's Behavior (1+ / 0-)
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          I'm not entirely convinced that he'll continue caucusing with the Democrats.  Joe feels that he's entitled to his seat and feels personally affronted by the fact that Democrats want him gone.  If Lamont wins the primary and Joe runs on his "Joe Lieberman for Joe Lieberman" ticket, he may find that he doesn't have the support of very many of his Senate colleagues.  So if he's running against a Democrat, abandoned by Senate Democrats, I can see Joe being of the vindictive sort where he would switch parties (and switching parties is an idea that he apparently has considered for this election in the first place).  

          And let's face it, the mere fact that Joementum says he will run in the general whether the Democrats vote for him in the primary or not gives us a pretty good understanding about how Joe feels about Democrats.  So the idea that Joe winning the general election (particularly if he's running in a three-way with Lamont and Schlessinger) will mean that he will caucus with the Democrats is not at all clear to me.  

          You can have your "Under God" back when I get my "Liberty and Justice For All" back.

          by karateexplosions on Mon Jul 31, 2006 at 07:49:29 AM PDT

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          •  late response - i see it as (0+ / 0-)

            which party wins the majority.

            If the r's retain the majority, he'll caucus with them. If the dem's win it, he'd stay with the party. After all, it's all about him. He doesn't give a rat's patootie about protecting the Constitution.

            "Is the law a law or is it a piece of toast?" -G. Keillor

            by birdbrain64 on Mon Jul 31, 2006 at 10:47:48 AM PDT

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