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  •  As a recovering meth addict... (8+ / 0-)

    I see the 'logical' side of behind-the-counter sales, but it really doesnt address the real problem: why people do it.

    In all honesty, meth makes you feel great. The side affects are horrible: at 23 years old I am getting 30 teeth pulled in the coming month, and will have dentures.

    I work at a boarding school for troubled teens, most of whom have drug or alcohol problems. Most have never done meth. In my experience its an 'older' peoples drug. I believe I've read statistically the average meth-user is a middle-income blue collar worker, trying to meet high demand at over-worked hours.  

    I'll be glad to speak with Terry about the affects, my first hand experience, and my work with drug-afflicted teens if it would help shed light on 'our side of the story'.  

    •  On users (4+ / 0-)

      I have also read that this is a suburban housewife drug, used for energy and weight loss.  (Which leads me again to ask - at what price will we be thin in this country?)

      As to why people do it, I believe that addiction has more of a matrix dynamic - there is no single answer.  People do lots of things because they feel good.  Alcohol, other drugs, eating - everybody has their comfort zone.  But feeling good at the price of your health, teeth and life is a special addiction dynamic.  End stage alcoholics and heroine users are probably the best comparisons.  I don't know the answer to any of it, but there are better minds than mind tackling this problem I hope.

      I certainly applaud your success in recovery and your work to help others.  Having to replace your teeth is a small price to pay compared to what it could have been if you hadn't been able to get help for yourself.

      Closed minds should come with closed mouths.

      by Pennsylvanian on Mon Aug 14, 2006 at 10:41:40 AM PDT

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    •  Maybe if the AZ paid more for prevention (2+ / 0-)
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      there wouldn't be such a huge demand for drugs.

      And I'm not just talking about the DARE program.

      Another "thank God":  Governor Janet Napolitano and her veto power over the state legislature (cut-all-of-the-programs-republican-Symington-clones).

      •  god, could you imagine (3+ / 0-)
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        a gov. Salmon?

        And drug prevention is def needed big time, but I am afraid of these Republicans in Arizona, or anywhere for that matter. I would hate to have a Dem Gov fund it only to have it cut the next year. It would almost be better for a Dem Gov to use state resources to bring everyone togethger and design a great program and get it funded through the non-profit system instead/.

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        by Dour on Mon Aug 14, 2006 at 10:55:46 AM PDT

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    •  hrm (1+ / 0-)
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      that actually be something I think the campaign would be interested in.  If you want to e-mail them your info, I am sure they would get back to you.

      Meth really is something that worse than any of the other drugs and really needs a special kind of attention and action which is why when I did the first diary, lots of people jumped on me because they thought I blogged about this because we need a new drug war.

      Not at all... in fact, a drug war is the complete wrong way to go about it because as you said, meth does make you feel great and you can function as a normal person while on it, so its hard to say quit this b\c of x,y or z.

      It requires much more finess

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      by Dour on Mon Aug 14, 2006 at 10:53:51 AM PDT

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    •  Meth is 'THE worst drug' (1+ / 0-)
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      I once had a friend who was heavily into drugs. A good guy, just on drugs all the time. He had tried them all. When I knew him he woke up with meth, went to work, came home and shot heroin until bedtime. Did a bit of weed and valium and mushrooms in between.

      I asked him if they should legalize drugs. I figured he would be all in favor of it since it would make his life a whole lot easier. His reply, "Everything but meth. Meth is the worst drug."

      Newest GOP slogan: Keeping Voter Turnout Low So That the Corporate Criminal's Grandchildren Never Have to Work.

      by bobinson on Mon Aug 14, 2006 at 11:04:57 AM PDT

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      •  Because users are functional (1+ / 0-)
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        while their brains are being fried.

        A friend of mine (nurse) said that Meth literally "cooks" the brain by raising the brain's temperature and even using it one time can result in irreversible brain damage.  (I'm not sure about the science)

        •  there's some variability (0+ / 0-)

          people seem to respond to it differently, and some people emerge relatively unscathed, while others are permanently fried.

          one of my most absolutely brilliant students, for example, was a former meth user. other people though? they might as well have blown half their brain out. seriously.

          i suspect it has something to do with our individual chemistries and immunities --- some people are able to sop up those free radicals like there's no tomorrow and compensate for the meth's effects by self-soaking (?)  their own brains in all the good chemicals, while others have few or no defenses.

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