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  •  You're using the language of crime and (0+ / 0-)

    prohibition, and it's concepts. Contriving an opportunistic state-level prohibition law against psuedoephedrine sales that duplicates existing federal laws and won't do a thing to reduce meth addiction is Drug War thinking, and action. A rose by any other name, etc.

    Instead of passing another law designed to stuff more people in prison, why doesn't your guy propose a massive increase in drug-rehab, counseling, mental health programs, and job-training to fight the roots of drug abuse. I suppose that would be just waaay too expensive, huh? It's much easier to cater to the prison and crime lobbies and just put the money into knocking heads and filling prisons, isn't it?

    Why don't you learn from the success of the anti-smoking campaign. Millions upon millions of people walk around every day without lighting up a cigarette, even though they can be purchased at any nearby store. And tobacco is one of the most addictive and most difficult-to-kick drugs available. This success was achieved through persuasion, not prohibition. Taking your approach, we would be flying helicopters over Kentucky looking for 'evil tobacco plantations', and locking up cigar makers. Wake up and smell the reality, dude.

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    by skrymir on Mon Aug 14, 2006 at 12:26:33 PM PDT

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    •  tobacco pales next to meth (1+ / 0-)
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      a more apt comparison would be white lightning (moonshine) and an aged scotch or nice red wine.

      white lightning will zap your brain and liver in no time, and easily kill in seemingly miniscule amounts. scotch or wine, by contrast, are not just enjoyable, but beneficial for most people.

      scotch and wine are legal. white lightning isn't. this is why. white lightning will kill you.

      as for the actual users, yes, meth has acquired a reputation for being the drug of choice for suburban housewifes and overworked blue collar workers. but, in my experience, it's the 15 and 16 and 17 year olds who are using it and developing the problems, many of them from perfectly functional homes. i've also known ex-baseball players who used and one longtime pothead who made the mistake of thinking she was invulnerable to all drugs because all drugs are the same and she'd made it to 35 with no ill effects --- um, not anymore. if she lives, she'll be lucky. but i don't think she's going to live because, from the sounds (and looks) of it, not only has she blown out her brain, but her kidneys.

    •  actually, its for tracking purposes (2+ / 0-)
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      did you know that the #1 way that meth labs were being found is because of Target. target would report and track people buying large amounts of psuedophedrine and 100% of all tips ended up with a meth lab. But now the cooks have figured it out and they no longer go to Target. Target's psuedophedrine sales have dropped over 300%

      And who is going to prison? Its a misdemeanor. The law is intended to be a deterant, not an enforcement mechanism.

      again, this is NOT the drug war. No one said anything about anything relating to a drug war. Everyone is ASSUMING that.

      Do you know how we are stopping it on the Taskforce? Arizona law enforcement work with the banks and credit unions and sieze their funds, once they have enough proof. Take away their ability to launder the money and you take away their support mechanism.

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      by Dour on Mon Aug 14, 2006 at 01:39:44 PM PDT

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