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  •  Because (3.33)
    Powell is playing directly into that negative stereotype, I would guess.

    "...the desert waves seem to break against this shore in a foam of blood." Freya Stark

    by theoria on Mon Apr 12, 2004 at 03:44:16 PM PDT

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    •  How is he playing into the stereotype? (none)
      what, exactly, does race have to do with the issues here?
      •  At the risk of falling into your trap (3.33)
        I say it does because he's acting like the good servant in a house full of rich, uppity white folks.

        "...the desert waves seem to break against this shore in a foam of blood." Freya Stark

        by theoria on Mon Apr 12, 2004 at 03:47:11 PM PDT

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        •  But but but (4.00)
          not because he's black!  I don't follow the point at all.

          Powell is not doing it because he's back and they are white.  He's doing it for whatever cowardly reason he's doing it.

          Frankly, Powell can be accused of alot of things, but being an Uncle Tom is not one of them.

          Now Clarence Thomas, that's another story.  

        •  It's not my trap (4.00)
          I'm not the one that used the references. And did you happen to see soj's captions under the picture?

          your comment: he's acting like the good servant in a house full of rich, uppity white folks.

          Please. That comment has no value except to be offensive.

          •  For you (4.00)
            ...it has no value but to be offensive. For me, it describes the man and his actions pretty accurately. For him to have gotten where he's gotten, only to sell-out in such a way is tragic. He could have made a difference, but instead chooses to peddle Bush's bullshit. And it is a choice.

            "...the desert waves seem to break against this shore in a foam of blood." Freya Stark

            by theoria on Mon Apr 12, 2004 at 03:58:07 PM PDT

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            •  And his race (3.33)
              has what to do with his sellout?

              Your post is no answer at all to the question  why you insist in viewing Powell's sellout through the prism of Uncle Tom.

              •  I'm baaack... (none)
                Sorry, I had to get out of the office.

                I am viewing this through the prism of Colin Fucking Powell, a sellout disgrace that happens to be black. If lawn ornament on the White House grounds happens to describe his fucking ass, then so be it. He's a disgrace, and he's earned a disgraceful label.

                "...the desert waves seem to break against this shore in a foam of blood." Freya Stark

                by theoria on Mon Apr 12, 2004 at 05:14:23 PM PDT

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                •  "Happens to be black" (none)
                  Exactly.

                  A fucking disgrace.  Exactly.

                  Not an Uncle Tom.  Which is something different.  At least for me. (See Thomas, Clarence.)

                  •  So what's the difference (none)
                    between Colin Powell and Clarence Thomas?

                    One is not born, but rather becomes, a woman. Simone de Beauvoir

                    by em dash on Mon Apr 12, 2004 at 05:24:12 PM PDT

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                    •  Powell vs. Thomas (4.00)
                      Clarence Thomas has deliberately acted against the interests of black people for the purpose of advancement and favor from white people. Powell has not acted in that way for such motivation.
                      •  So... (none)
                        • the withdrawn funding to address the African and Caribbean AIDS crises -- the greatest health epidemic in history is not acting against the interests of black people?
                        • the lack of redress on the continuing crisis in the Sudan is not acting against the interests of black people?
                        • the carrying of BushCo's water in the lead-up to the Iraq War at the UN and the complicity in Niger/Yellowcake fraud are not acting against the interests of black people?
                        • the defunding of family planning programs in Africa, South America, and the Caribbean is not acting against the interests of black people?
                        • the failure to lead on women's health and the barbaric practice of genital mutilation is not acting against the interests of black people?
                        • the blind eye on Mugabe's resign of terror is not acting against the interests of black people?
                        • the defunding of USAID funding in sub-Saharan Africa is not acting against the interests of black people?
                        • the complicity in the overthrow of a Democratically elected president in Haiti is not acting against the interests of black people?
                        • the continued instability and lack of policy in Algeria, Cote d'Invoire, Congo, Liberia, Zimbabwe, Nigeria, Sudan, Somalia, Angola, Burundi, Kenya, and Central African Republic while thugs, despots, and terorists travel unabated through these countries are not acting against the interests of black people?
                        Coulda fooled me.

                        One is not born, but rather becomes, a woman. Simone de Beauvoir

                        by em dash on Mon Apr 12, 2004 at 05:59:58 PM PDT

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                        •  Knew it wasn't (none)
                          an honest question.

                          Nice list.  All Powell's doing no doubt and also part of a deliberate attack on blacks on Powell's part.

                          Now if Powell were white, would that list of grievances make him a racist?

                          An honest question.

                          •  black or white (none)
                            racist is racist.

                            Does it matter that Powell's step'n fetch it routine only victimizes "Africans" and "Caribbeans" and not "African Americans"?

                            One is not born, but rather becomes, a woman. Simone de Beauvoir

                            by em dash on Mon Apr 12, 2004 at 06:14:44 PM PDT

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                        •  The BLACK MAN'S Burden (none)
                          I do not hold Colin Powell responsible for all the ills that ail black people throughout the entire world.  No black man would want the job of Secretary of State if that is the standard to which he will be held.  Did you blame Madeline Albright for every and any tragic circumstance that women faced on the earth?  Somehow, I doubt that you did.   Furthermore, nothing in your litany of Colin Powell's alleged failures of responsibilities to the dark-hued peoples of earth do I see any evidence that Secretary Powell personally gained favor or promotion in exchange for tragedy or suspicion falling upon Africa, the Caribbean, the MidEast, or South America.
                          •  Calling a spade, a spade (none)
                            Did you blame Madeline Albright for every and any tragic circumstance that women faced on the earth?

                            As a matter of fact, I do.

                            ...do I see any evidence that Secretary Powell personally gained favor or promotion...

                            He's employed as the leader of the foreign service for the sole remaining Super Power on the planet. And he carries the water for BushCo in fucking over billions of people across the world and into the waiting arms of a 7-figure post-government corporate job come January 2005. Sounds a whole lot better than a military pension.

                            I'd call that a promotion.

                            One is not born, but rather becomes, a woman. Simone de Beauvoir

                            by em dash on Mon Apr 12, 2004 at 06:25:46 PM PDT

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                          •  Talk About Double Standards (none)
                            Did you blame Madeline Albright for every and any tragic circumstance that women faced on the earth?

                            As a matter of fact, I do

                            How bizarre.  You must have had serious issues with Benazir Bhutto, Indira Gandhi, Margaret Thatcher,...or for that matter, Catherine the Great, and Elizabeth I.  I guess you called a bitch a bitch.

                            Sounds a whole lot better than a military pension

                            I'm sure Powell could have earned or was already earning 7 figures writing books and lecturing before he joined the Bush Admin.  

                    •  An Honest Question? (4.00)
                      I'll treat it as such.

                      Clarence Thomas was a completely uncredentialed unqualified hack who, through selling out African-Americans and their interests, rose in the GOP, and then, when Thurgood Marshall, the best lawyer of the 20th Century, the first African-American Justice of the Supreme Court retired, Thomas was chosen to replace him solely, SOLELY, because of his race, and on his record as an Uncle Tom for the GOP, was chosen as his replacement.

                      He then had the gall to accuse his opponents of a high tech lynching!!!

                      Powell, through smarts, ambition, hard work, and charm, made his way up the ranks in the Army and the national security establishment.  Did Powell's race help him? Sure.  Did it hurt?  You bet.

                      The GOP is used to having their tokens in EEOC (see Thomas) or HUD (Pierce), not in thenational security world.

                      In short, there is a world of difference between them.

                      Not to mention that Powell supports  affirmative action and Thomas does not.  Who's the hypocrite do you think?

        •  that's saying... (none)
          it's inconcievable that he actually believes these stupid policies... and that is not impossible.
        •  soj - this is not new (4.00)
          harry belafonte made these comments about colin powell a year ago.  except he called him a "house slave".

          www.cnn.com/2002/US/10/15/belafonte.powell/

          these ooooold terms are old in more ways than their age.  it's offensive.  

          as a black man, i find them ridiculous.  powell's blackness has nothing to do with his utter loss of credibility.  and i would say the reason your calling him this name is because he's not "keeping it real".  because he's not living up to what many people expect of a black man, he's immediatly a sellout.  

          it's a shallow and racist idea to call him an uncle tom for not living up to your expectations of what a black man is.

          there are good black men and bad black men.  and for that reason you should understand that in any color there are good men and bad men, and even men that don't matter.  

          if you want to discuss powell in terms of his race, why don't you choose an appropriate context.  the pathetic job he's doing as SOS doesn't seem to be that context.

          First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win. - Ghandi

          by madetoorder on Mon Apr 12, 2004 at 05:05:12 PM PDT

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