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  •  Yep. (And yapping.) (0+ / 0-)
    1. I'll read the book and get back to you on that. Still you can't admit your country's problems. That's ok.
    1. It would have been true if Israel's sole purpose was to serve as a tool against Lebanon and Syria and Egypt and Jordan, but Israel was founded so we can live and goes to wars not on America's ticket.
    1. I agree the war was a failure.
    1. It is technically , but it saves lives , and that's more important. Tell me please (i'd like to know your name if that's possible) , are you one of the people refered to as bättre folk or are you just a Finnish-speaking Fin? Know any members of Joensuu's skinheads do you now?


    Such hidden racism has been very common in working life. In 2001 and 2002 Pirkko Pitkänen and Päivi Atjonen studied what kind of attitudes Finnish business executives have towards immigrants applying for jobs. According to the study, the employers were afraid of the risks involved with hiring immigrants. They considered African-born immigrants and Muslims the most unreliable and unwanted employees, but had very little or nothing against hiring people from the Nordic countries, Estonia, Western Europe and North America. Roughly half of all the immigrants in Finland feel that their color, religion or ethnic origin has complicated their employment. About a third of the immigrants are still unemployed (Pitkänen 7-8). Among certain ethnicities, such as Somalians and Iraqis, the unemployment rate is as high as 70% (Heikkilä and Peltonen 5).

    Here here for racism-free Finland.

    1. The Golan heights have been a part of Israel for 40 years. They belonged to Syria for 19. Some 30,000 Israelies live there and countless businesses work there. It is (unlike Gaza) , an integral part of Israel , practically , not ideologically.
    1. We can't live together. We never could. Two totally different cultures can't coexist in a single state. It's ridiculous.
    1. Please tell me how many Fins got killed just for being Fins all around Europe during the last 200 years? Have Fins ever been systematically been driven away from their homes? Was there ever an attempt to kill the Fins altogether (god forbid)?
    1. I know alot more about Arab culture than you do and i can assure you (nothing that a little online research can't confirm) : most Arabs living in Arab states despise Israel and Jews , don't believe in our right to exist here and think Israel is a spearhead in the West's crusade war against Islam.

    We may live in a gutter , but wer'e reaching for the stars.

    by SteppenWolf on Wed Aug 23, 2006 at 01:54:37 PM PDT

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    •  asdf (0+ / 0-)
      1. Check  the other studies on the subject, if you want to get a decent result. she has the academic status of David Irving, but go ahead.
      1. No, i don't know any skinheads. And the joensuu-case was handled quite quickly. and it is about foreigners, not Jewish people.

      I'm not part of the bättre folk, well, ok, ½.

      1. Where did i say that it didn't exist? Learn the language and your chances to get the job goes up. And in what company do the executives hire the people? I haven't seen them hiring me.

      It is very different to have laws that discriminate and  to act in a discriminate way.

      1. Yes you can. I'll get the Romans to kick you,both.
      1. Why limit it to the last 200 years? One good example comes from Sweden where thousands of "forest-finns" were brutally incarcerated. Some were going to be sent to the Swedish colony in north america..sounds familiar?

      In 1640 it became law that if a finn refused to learn Swedish, his house would be burned and there would be no legal protection on his life( free game).

      Want more?

      And yes, the dear soviets did and the Russians today are, targeting tribes form the same language group.

      1. How on eath did the jews then survive in arab countries for so long?
      •  i'm tired... (0+ / 0-)

        I'll post another diary tomorrow. This time about Muslim media. See you then. Good night.

        We may live in a gutter , but wer'e reaching for the stars.

        by SteppenWolf on Wed Aug 23, 2006 at 03:08:10 PM PDT

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        •  One last thing (0+ / 0-)

          They survived because Islam protects their lives as Dhimmi , but , except for a very brief golden age , Jews were ill treated, discriminated against and murdered on various occasions.
          One might ask himself  , how did the Jews survive centuries of persecution in Europe.
          The answer is simple : The belief In "Geula" (i don't know how to translate that but it generally means a firm belief in the return to Eretz Israel and mercy at the end of time) and collective memory.
          It is probably the yearning for Eretz Israel that kept Jews and the Jewish faith so alive over time.

          If I forget thee, O Jerusalem, let my right hand forget her cunning.
          Let my tongue cleave to the roof of my mouth, If I remember thee not; If I prefer not Jerusalem Above my chief joy.

          Bon nuit , mon ami.

          We may live in a gutter , but wer'e reaching for the stars.

          by SteppenWolf on Wed Aug 23, 2006 at 03:18:59 PM PDT

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        •  On that we can perhaps agree (0+ / 0-)

          There is lot of room for criticism. Remember to add cartoons :D

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