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  •  Going after Mrs. Wilson? (2+ / 0-)
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    Hi Marcy,

    Thanks for this diary.  Please read the excerpt from Amy Goodmans interview with Corn & Isakoff & then see my question below:

    AMY GOODMAN: We are talking with two investigative reporters who have just come out with a book called Hubris: The Inside Story of Spin, Scandal and the Selling of the Iraq War: Michael Isikoff, investigative correspondent for Newsweek, as well as David Corn, who is the Washington editor of The Nation magazine. They have broken a number of stories within this book: one, Richard Armitage, the source of the leak, the outing of Valerie Plame, and what Valerie Plame was doing at the time of her outing, that she was looking for weapons of mass destruction in Iraq. David, you said that this, of course, derailed the whole thing. It's always been talked about as going after her husband for revealing in the New York Times that he had gone to Niger and, in fact, that Saddam Hussein was not getting weapons of mass destruction. But it could have been just an outright attack on her. She's the chief of a division that says no WMD.

    DAVID CORN: Well, she was operations chief. I don't think it was. I don't think they actually knew what she was doing...

    Democracy Now! — September 12, 2006

    I don't recall whether it was something you wrote or something I heard on the radio - I'm curious about speculation that Judith Miller, Darth Cheney and the whole cabal were targeting Valerie Wilson because she was in the position of vetting the stooges that were sent to the CIA to tell wild tales of Iraq's WMD arsenal - Ms. Wilson was not buying their wild claims - they then went to Judith Miller who published the wild claims in the paper of record - the stooges also told Miller about the woman at the CIA who didn't take their claims seriously - Ms. Wilson was a big problem for the White House Iraq Group because she was good at her job - she had figured out that there was no imminent mushroom cloud - the WHIG wanted Ms. Wilson out so they could invade Iraq.

    What do you think of that scenario?

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    •  Plame (3+ / 0-)
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      Margot, peace voter, semiot

      I think it's quite possible they were going after Plame, or Plame plus Wilson, for several reasons.

      • Even if they weren't worried about Plame revealing that there was no intel, they may have believed Plame cued Wilson into saying what he did, reflecting not only his knowledge, but also hers
      • I think it is possible that a defector (or Woolsey, who introduced just about everyone of those fabricators to the CIA) figured out Plame was involved in CPD
      • I keep thinking of Libby's use of the names Victoria Wilson and Valerie Flame--she was traveling overseas under assumed names in the lead-up to war ... were these her assumed names?
      • AFAIK, the stories of 30 family members of Iraqi scientists never truly entered the reporting process (they don't appear in the SSCI 1 or 2), so it is possible Dick was afraid that would come out

      In short, there are many scenarios in which I think it's possible that Valerie was a target herself.

      There is also the Iran angle. Yes, she could probably make it harder to get to Iran. Though she certainly didn't succeed at stopping them from going to Iraq.

      This is the way democracy ends Not with a bomb But with a gavel -Max Baucus

      by emptywheel on Wed Sep 13, 2006 at 12:41:24 PM PDT

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      •  Woolsey - yeah Woolsey (1+ / 0-)
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        Margot

        As you know, I've been trying to call out Tom McGuire on the Sy Hersh Stovepipe reporting on some sort of "ex-CIA" cabal behind the Niger forgeries.

        Why? Because I think that will be the fall-back story once the Armitage dodge runs its course.

        The blog post of his Tom sent me to is a muddle. VIPS had no reason to tell Sy Hersh that tale. Who did? The other day it hit me - Woolsey. Hersh describes his source as "a former senior CIA officer." Bingo!

        Woolsey - another contender for the Nosferatu look-alike contest.

        The name is not the thing named, the map is not the territory. -- Gregory Bateson

        by semiot on Wed Sep 13, 2006 at 12:50:07 PM PDT

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        •  Other current contestants (0+ / 0-)

          Richard Perle
          John Negroponte
          Michael Chertoff
          Bill O'Reiley
          Tony Blair's secret portrait

          Nominations are still open!

          The name is not the thing named, the map is not the territory. -- Gregory Bateson

          by semiot on Wed Sep 13, 2006 at 02:40:23 PM PDT

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