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    The universities in Springfield have extension courses for degree and help with getting student loans right there for them. Or in the next town over. Access is there. They have families for babysitting.

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      it's the church that eats up their time as well as athletics for their kids. Can't come to class as my boy has a basketball game. Can't come to class because I have to go to a funeral. Have to come late to class because our church is having a supper. Have to leave early because there is a special event at our church. Lots of social pressures rather than so many family pressures.

    •  I'm not wrong. (1+ / 0-)
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      And I didn't say you were wrong; I said I disagree.  I can do that, you know.

      Frankly, you can't tell me that women in Two Dot, Montana have the same access to education that someone who lives in a larger town does.  I don't think you understand exactly how big my home state is.  For women in small towns in Montana, getting access to education means driving for many miles--maybe even an hour to even get to a class.  That means having a car that is reliable and that the family can afford to have disappear for at least 3-4 hours and finding someone willing to babysit for that long.  It means scheduling around work if they are working and finding the money if they don't.

      And even though we commonly have access to computers doesn't mean they do.  For a lot of people a computer is a luxury.

      Rural areas have real challenges, especially when it comes to education.  Please don't dismiss them out-of-hand.

      I was merely suggesting that churches are not the sole problem for rural education.  Did you ever stop to think that maybe education is dismissed as useful by so many simply because they know they can never get it?  It's a defense mechanism--a sour grapes sort of thinking to save face.

      Perhaps I'm being sensitive, but you sound rather biased against small town white women.

      The media are only as liberal as the conservative businesses that own them.

      by MTgirl on Mon Sep 18, 2006 at 07:49:01 AM PDT

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      •  I guess I am biased about small town women (1+ / 0-)
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        because I have so many of them around me and I have taught them in night school. They really hate learning and change of any kind. No they can't get a good education,  but put them in a situation where it would be possible to get it and they would flounder. The early school years have to change, and the local teachers are hired by the local school board.

        Education does divide a family. Parents are right to be suspicious of it because it will create a breach. Can you imagine trying to argue facts with a right wingnut? Even if she happens to be your mother. You will always be a know nothing child to her.

        Almost all of my students did not want to really understand. They wanted that piece of paper to a better job. That's all. You get that piece of paper and you think you've gotten an education just because you have a degree. It isn't true. It's just a piece of paper. It keeps those with higher level degrees employed. It keeps students in school longer until they mature and have enough to lose so they won't cause trouble.

        Sorry this turned into a rant. I am 72 and still studying and taking courses. I really like to learn. But the rural culture is anti learning and if you had gone to the schools in my neon red town you would hate learning too. The kids hate it, the parents hate it, the teachers hate the students of today, the students hate the teachers, the teachers hate the administration, the administration hates the teachers. Lovely all around.

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