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  •  Right now (14+ / 0-)

    I'd settle for politicians and pundits and observers who are supposed to be on our side not falling into the "making public statements about what's wrong with the Democrats trap."

    Can we start with that?

    "I have a philosophy about elections. I believe issues divide and values unite."--Gov. Brian Schweitzer

    by Joan McCarter on Mon Sep 18, 2006 at 09:07:35 AM PDT

    •  How Would We Rate (0+ / 0-)

      for example, Sen Obama's recent position statements on religion and, now, security/defense?  How do those statements fit in with the 12 traps?

      As Dems, we lack a central figure to base our strategy around.  Even with this year, and our chance to score big, the party still is not running with a theme for voters to follow, like Contract With America.  Not saying thats right, etc, but maybe a central theme would help us focus the debate for once, and go on the offense.  Make the GOP move off their attack mode and respond in kind to us.

      I think there's practical politics and ideal situations.  The 12 traps represent good ideas, but live in an ideal world.  In real politics, not a lot makes sense.  Sorting that out is the job of the party.

    •  agree and disagree (0+ / 0-)

      the way that this sort of critique: "what's wrong ..." is introduced it seems more as a form of criticism, and what's worse as one that universalizes all democratics as wrong etc.

      OTOH we don't want to suppress dissent or constructive critique - and there are more and less tactful ways that this can be done

      "There is no limit to what you can do if you have the power to change the rules." -Josh Marshall

      by grollen on Mon Sep 18, 2006 at 11:19:27 AM PDT

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      •  Seven weeks (six now?) (2+ / 0-)
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        There isn't dissent and constructive criticism. You spend all your criticism on the other guys. In public, anyway.

        "I have a philosophy about elections. I believe issues divide and values unite."--Gov. Brian Schweitzer

        by Joan McCarter on Mon Sep 18, 2006 at 01:09:05 PM PDT

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        •  I think we need an RSS tag or a text message (1+ / 0-)
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          to go out on all the major sites that says: "ATTENTION  - 6 WEEKS TO GO - NEGATIVES ON OPPOSITION ONLY"

          Seriously, it's such a basic point one wonders if the only reason it isn't happening is because people just haven't been told directly.

          SusanG's post aside, of course...

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