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  •  To This Day... (7+ / 0-)

    ...Stanford believes they were screwed by the officials, when Cal somehow won with The Play. Whenever I've seen the replay, I've always wondered why no one on the Stanford Band could make a tackle. Where the hell is the damn tree?

    Many Stanford officials, players, and fans have objected to the ruling. Primarily it was claimed that Dwight Garner's knee was down before he lateraled to Richard Rodgers. Both Garner and Rodgers claim that the knee was not down. Kevin Lamar, a Stanford player who tackled Garner, however, maintains that Garner was down before the lateral left his hands. Another objection is that the last lateral from Ford to Moen was, in fact, an illegal forward pass. As stated before, it is difficult to evaluate these objections from the footage. During the game, however, the referees decided that all five laterals were legal; according to referee Charles Moffett, the officials actually had the option of awarding a touchdown to Cal due to interference from the band, and Moffett later recalled that he was shocked and "kind of relieved" (full quote) to have learned that Moen had scored, sparing Moffett the decision.

    ...For many years, John Elway [Stanford's Quarterback] was bitter, on both a personal level and on behalf of his team, about the touchdown being allowed: "This was an insult to college football... They (the officials) ruined my last game as a college football player."

    •  This gives me an idea for ESPN Classic (0+ / 0-)

      Alternate endings to games. Once in a while, they should run alternative versions with, say, Kirk Gibson striking out against the A's in the World Series, Christian Laettner tossing up an airball against Kentucky in the East Regional finals, or Jethro Pugh stuffing Bart Starr in the Ice Bowl.

      "I came to the conclusion long ago that all life is six to five against."--Damon Runyon.

      by Dump Terry McAuliffe on Tue Sep 19, 2006 at 09:02:53 PM PDT

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      •  There is a commercial like that (0+ / 0-)

        I can't remember for what product, but it indeed changes the endings of famous finishes so that the person who came through in the clutch failed instead. One of them was a famous buzzer-beater by Michael Jordan in the NBA playoffs. And one of the altered events was, indeed, the Christian Laettner shot against Kentucky. It was very convincingly done. And I still see it today.

    •  yes we do believe that (0+ / 0-)

      and sometimes refer to "the screw of '82"

      It is worth noting that the awful official from the Oklahoma/Oregon game had also been part of the '82 atrocity.

      I've always wondered why no one on the Stanford Band could make a tackle

      God, if I had a dollar for every time I've heard that lame joke. The main reason we didn't is that we never expected to have to. Also, it might have been against the rules.

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      by esquimaux on Tue Sep 19, 2006 at 09:33:58 PM PDT

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    •  That is my favorite play of all time (1+ / 0-)
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      not because of the outcome.  I love it because the trombone player gets crushed.

      We hate our band at Iowa State.  It's tradition.

    •  Stanford would have gone to a bowl (1+ / 0-)
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      if they had won; Elway had never been to a bowl and never would.

      Up until a few years ago - and it may still be true - the score of that game in the Stanford record book was the score before the final TD, with Stanford winning.

      Illumination is cheap around here.

      by walkshills on Wed Sep 20, 2006 at 12:24:41 AM PDT

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    •  Interference (1+ / 0-)
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      The "interference on the band" call would have been completely legal but somehow less satisfying than a win, I'm glad they didn't have to do that.  The band play is my favorite all time football play.

      Note:  the reason the band was on the field is that they had been barred from appearing on TV.  After several incidents of mooning and what-not, the school prohibited them from being shown on TV.  They always rushed to take the field so that they could get even a few seconds of air time.

      There have been a few cases where Interference has led to a touchdown call.  I think a few college games had a player come off the sideline to make a tackle when they saw an interception being run back unimpeded.

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