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  •  Big, huh? (4+ / 0-)

    I also added and clarified some titles for more accuracy since this is BIG.

    You know, sometimes dkos is just depressing. Let's face the facts here. No one outside of Rolling Stone or dkos or a few other liberal places will care about this. 90% of Americans have no clue anything could possibly be wrong with Diebold machines. Those that do know just think it's little neutral errors that hurt both sides equally.

    Rolling Stone and RFK are totally irrelevant, I'm afraid to say.

    Kudos for people keeping on this. It's just too bad it'll never mean anything significant for people like Cleland, Gore, and Kerry who have had elections stolen from them. Oh, and for the dead and wounded thanks to the Iraq War.

    Whackos get their info thru the Christian right. We'll bring them out to vote against something and make sure the public lets the whole thing slip past them.

    by chemsmith on Thu Sep 21, 2006 at 03:40:40 PM PDT

    •  Dkos didn't even exist a few years ago (9+ / 0-)

      Or blogging in general.  So more and more people seem to be caring every day.  A political movement is a marathon not a 50 yard sprint.

      Before the 2004 primary: Rove was overheard telling a companion, "That's the one we want..." After: "The good news for us is that Dean is not the nominee."

      by erik28com on Thu Sep 21, 2006 at 03:49:53 PM PDT

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      •  But what's mind-bending... (0+ / 0-)

        It's true that political movements take time.  Many on this board remind us that it took the GOP decades to consolidate enough power to really, seriously screw up this country.

        But what makes me want to puke my guts out it is that we occasionally catch ourselves thinking that it takes a movement to have clean elections!  In the US!  What happened to us?  What will happen if, as in Georgia, those last minute polls "reverse themselves" in Nov?

        -7.0, -6.0 "...preserve and cherish that pale blue dot, the only home we've ever known."

        by North Central on Thu Sep 21, 2006 at 07:42:15 PM PDT

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    •  I would like to add (5+ / 0-)

      that it wasn't only the three people you mentioned who had elections stolen from them -- it was the entire population of the country that was scammed.

      And it is RFK and Rolling Stone that got the interest going with their last article.  They are not insignificant, even by big media standards.

      But you are not alone in your depression.  To paraphrase a cliche:  If you're not depressed, you obviously don't know how bad things are.

      That's why I come here to Dkos, there is a tremendous ground swell of hope and activism.  I can set the depression aside and still believe in the power of the individual.  We can't ever stop believing.

    •  From Reuters, yesterday- (4+ / 0-)

      Nearly one-fifth of American adult users of the Internet in August 2006 spent some time reading about politics or the coming U.S. election, a big increase from November 2004, according to a survey released on Wednesday by the Pew Internet and American Life Project.

      http://news.yahoo.com/...

      "We can't solve problems by using the same kind of thinking we used when we created them." - A. Einstein

      by FWIW on Thu Sep 21, 2006 at 04:05:53 PM PDT

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    •  What's TRULY depressing is that even though (0+ / 0-)

      these stories keep leaking out, you will probably NOT see this frontpaged because the powers-that-be here don't believe this happens or happened.  They want us to pipe down on this issue because it makes us "look bad".

      Is it over yet???

      by dnn on Thu Sep 21, 2006 at 10:58:27 PM PDT

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      •  I don't agree... (0+ / 0-)

        Many of these stories have been on the highly reccomended list in the past months, especially Stop George's diaries on it.

        McJoan has diaried on the front page a lot about vote suppression. While she's been on the skeptic side about vote fraud, she gave it fair hearing in her front pages.

        Kos is holding the site to a high standard, I think that's ultimately a good thing though I may disagree with his take on vote fraud.

      •  Same with Kos! (0+ / 0-)

        Why does Kos refuse to front page any election tampering stories?  IT HAS BEEN PROVEN THAT THIS SHIT CAN OCCUR!

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