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  •  Dobson advocates exposing yourself (14+ / 0-)

    to children to prevent gayness -

    Meanwhile, the boy's father has to do his part. He needs to mirror and affirm his son's maleness. He can play rough-and-tumble games with his son, in ways that are decidedly different from the games he would play with a little girl. He can help his son learn to throw and catch a ball. He can teach him to pound a square wooden peg into a square hole in a pegboard. He can even take his son with him into the shower, where the boy cannot help but notice that Dad has a penis, just like his, only bigger.

    I wouldn't be suprised to find out that he is a pedophile the more I learn about him.

    "Those who cast the votes decide nothing. Those who count the votes decide everything."

    by calipygian on Thu Sep 21, 2006 at 03:44:15 PM PDT

    •  Child abuse experts (10+ / 0-)

      have identified the risk factors that make a child more likely to be sexually abused.

      One of the top red flags is having a conservative Christian relative.

      •  Do you have a link for that (1+ / 0-)
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        I would love to be able to cite that to any Dobsonites I run across on the Internets.

        Dobson is a sick, sick, sick individual.  In a proper world, he'd not be allowed within a mile of anyone's children.

        Chaos, fear, dread. My work here is done.

        by madhaus on Thu Sep 21, 2006 at 04:25:30 PM PDT

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        •  Well you see (2+ / 0-)
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          when people are inhibited sexually and can only have sex within marriage the new allure wears off. Now they are no longer virgins but no longer innocent of experience either. This is fertile ground for the imagination to plant in.

          His ministry is all about that repression. The shower quote needs to be turned into a cartoon. At least Dobson has a bigger dick than a child so bully for him.

          And back to the newly weds who probably get pregnant when they really don't want to, have children they really don't want, don't really love them but have to pretend they do.

          In my neon red town they resent the spontaneity of my dogs! Their children mostly have dull expressions on their faces. If they are not sullen and instead are vivacious, school sucks it out of them. If not they get branded bad, then criminal and are turned into deviants. It works.

          •  Read Glasshouse by Charles Stross (0+ / 0-)

            Starts off as an artificial version of 1950s conformity but you find out it's really something far more evil.

            Chaos, fear, dread. My work here is done.

            by madhaus on Thu Sep 21, 2006 at 06:34:06 PM PDT

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          •  "Sullen"? (0+ / 0-)

            Their children mostly have dull expressions on their faces. If they are not sullen and instead are vivacious...

            I've only been down South a few times, but I suspect that by "sullen," what you really mean is "well-behaved and respectful toward adults." And, no offense, but I frequently hear "vivacious" — or "boisterous," or "high-spirited," or whatever — used to describe children who are brats  from hell.

            This is especially true of liberal parents with a Rousseauesque view of human nature who seem to think that any sort of discipline would be injurious to their little darlings' self-esteem. I can't count the number of times I've seen somebody in Whole Foods or Trader Joe's drone, "Now, now, Sierra-Montana, please don't do that, you're hurting Mommy's feelings" while the kid tears up the store or otherwise treats it as a playground. That is, if the "parent" doesn't just stand there obliviously. And any attempts by the "village" to correct the misbehavior provokes an angry reaction from said "parent." How dare you expect his or her sweet little angel to use an indoor voice and stop climbing on the shelves?!

            I do not believe that spanking in and of itself constitutes abuse, so long as it's done infrequently and the only thing it causes is a little temporary pain. Anti-spanking activists who conflate a swat on the bottom with the sort of abuse Dobson suggests doling out are disingenuous. And they've helped contribute to a society in which parents who don't control their kids are the norm, and a parent who attempts to do so is likely to have 911 called on them.

            •  You hit a child when you have exhausted (0+ / 0-)

              your own ability to think of an alternative. I find your responses generalized and not well informed as you use stereotypes all through.

              When I say sullen, go through LAX and then do a stopover at St. Louis and you will see what I mean by sullen doughy faces. The airport is full of them. Heavy vibrations.

              I am referring to the children in my neon red town. The other day I met one at the dulcimer factory who was a beauty. She had a real conversation with me. Usually they are so desperate to talk to anyone who will listen it's just:

              See my chewing gum!
              I have a new doll.

              My cat got sick today.
              They assault you with this kind of communication.

              The child at the Dulcimer factory said what's its name? Oh, HoneyBee, what a nice name. Then I asked her her name, and she asked me mine. I asked her if she went to the school around here. She said yes and she liked it. I said I bet your teacher loves you. And she smiled and said yes, she does. And all the while she looked in my eyes without fear of doing so.  You will never get that kind of conversation from a local child around here. Her parents may live here now but they didn't grow up here.

              And I am not so stupid as to mistake sulleness for politeness. Although politeness often masks sulleness and vicious verbal attacks as you can read in any Victorian novel, particularly in one by Jane Austen or Henry James.

      •  Yup. They are sex obsessed. (1+ / 0-)
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      Sadly, another aspect of dominionism rarely reported on is that sexual abuse is relatively common (as compared to most mainstream Christian groups) and is vastly underreported--in part because women reporting sexual abuse are condemned as "jezebels" as best, and occasionally subjected to further abuse by the pastors themselves for reporting abuse by family members.

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