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    Do you agree with the statements that Ahemandinjad has made aboust Israel, Jews, and the Holocaust?

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    by jiacinto on Mon Sep 25, 2006 at 11:33:16 AM PDT

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    •  Wow, jiacinto... (4+ / 0-)

      Let me help you out here - it is a fact that some Nazis who fled Germany went to the middle east, why don't you just ask if we support Nazis since we don't believe all the hype the Bush regime is spreading about Venezuela and Iran?

      Maybe Ahemandinjad mentioned Pol Pot in a speech at one point - I think it would help your cause a lot if you try to tie Iran with the millions of people killed by the Khemer Rouge - not that it's true or needs more introspection, but it makes a good way to harass someone with vague questions.

      Maybe you need to stop being so reactionary about Chavez - you know, even though it is Bush and Bolton's biggest talking point, I do agree with Greg Grandin, professor of Latin American history at New York University and author of "Empire's Workshop: Latin America, the United States, and the Rise of the New Imperialism.", when he said on Democracy Now recently:

      JUAN GONZALEZ: One of the U.S. officials who did react to the Chavez speech was John Bolton, the U.S. ambassador, who, as I recall this, he said that Chavez was free in this country to say whatever he wanted, so he could go to Central Park and say the same thing and that he wished that Chavez would extend the same kind of freedom to the press and freedom of speech in Venezuela itself. Now, this has been a growing theme of critics of the Chavez administration, that it’s increasingly authoritarian. What is the status of the press in Venezuela today?

      GREG GRANDIN: Well, this is, I think, indicative of the ignorance of the United States’s top diplomat to the world to talk with such ignorance and lack of knowledge of what's going on in Venezuela. Anybody who has any firsthand experience in Venezuela remarks on how free and open the press is. And the corporate media, the print media and the TV media is just chronically obsessed with Chavez and critical in a way that would be completely alien for most U.S. observers.

      There’s no -- Guatemala is a good contrast. Actually, just last week, a journalist, a journalist and human rights activist was gunned down on the streets of a major city in broad daylight, and people have linked it to paramilitary groups and to an uptick in repression. If that kind of event, if that kind of repression happened in Venezuela, the world would know it through the United States, and yet, because Guatemala is being backed by the U.S., it’s --

      JUAN GONZALEZ: But now, hasn't the Venezuelan government passed new laws that would indicate at least its ability to exercise a new restraint on the press?

      GREG GRANDIN: Well, some of that legislation, social responsibility legislation, was passed after the 2002 coup, which was organized and encouraged and inflamed by the corporate media, by Gustavo Cisneros, the head of Venevision and other corporate media conglomerates.

      AMY GOODMAN: What do you mean it was “encouraged” by?

      GREG GRANDIN: Well, part of the kind of polarization and mounting campaign of destabilization was being played out on the private TV stations in the weeks leading up to the April coup. And then a number of them were linked directly to the coup plotters, both the journalists and the corporate backers of the corporate owners of the stations. This legislation has come -- I mean, it’s two things. One, it hasn't been enforced. Two, some of its defenders have said it's no different than any kind of social responsibility legislation you would see in Germany, for instance, or Scandinavian countries.

      See, like Cindy, I've been to Venezuela, and what you are seeing is the result of a rich, privately run media fighting to keep it's power in a newly populist country.  Or to put it in terms we can understand, this is the equivalent of the lies the rich tell here thru their enablers - the media and the government.

      They just don't have the government in Venezuela yet.

      "The waging of war, by its nature, is total - but the waging of peace, by our own cowardice, is partial." -- Daniel Berrigan

      by Rico on Mon Sep 25, 2006 at 11:56:12 AM PDT

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