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  •  Oh please. Don't blame the freaking booze. (8+ / 0-)

    I've been sober for years.  You're accountable for your actions.  Totally.  There's an old warning about judging yourself by your intentions because others will judge you by your actions.  What you do.  That's what counts.  And what Foley did disgusts me, drunk or not.  

    The drunk/drugged excuse doesn't fly for poor folk who say they were wasted when raping or murdering.  It doesn't fly here and is an insult to those who've had to take the consequences of their actions without a paid Republican shill to plead their case.  Go visit DC lockup or some of the homeless shelters and see how the drunk excuse flies.  

    Foley's accountable.  He's chased teens for years and used his power position to do so.  Let him take his lumps like the 50+ year old lawmaker he is, whether he was drunk or not.  I hope he does get sober.  And I hope he gets the full consequences of his actions.  Which are despicable.

    BTW, great name, VID.  

    Had enough? Vote Democrat, 2006.

    by DC Scott on Mon Oct 02, 2006 at 07:44:36 PM PDT

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    •  It's so pathetic and enraging to blame (1+ / 0-)
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      alcoholism for his behaviour and run away and hide in a "rehab facility". A very typical "Republican-style" of white wash, cut and run and cover-up.

      I bet this man is in not at all an alcoholic. He is a typical shallow "Schleimscheisser". Who else would hold a speech revealing that he thinks "cruising in his BMW to a nice restaurant with a Republican Congressman" is the top dream of an aspiring teenage Hill intern? How much shallower and lower can a 52 year old Congressman think?

      Power ought to serve as a check to power - Montesquieu, 1748

      by mimi on Mon Oct 02, 2006 at 07:58:34 PM PDT

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      •  Well, yes and no. (1+ / 0-)
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        Foley probably does have a problem w/ booze.  Drunks do stupid shit like this all the time.  The deal is that being drunk doesn't get you a pass.  If anything, it makes it even more likely that you've done this sort of crap before and knew you should stop.  

        I hope Foley gets sober.  I've been to some meetings with some sober Repubs and shared some good vibes.  Sobriety's sort of a bipartisan deal, not being allied with politics and all.  SEE THIS.

        Foley's still scum in my book, for the moment.  Let him earn his way back into polite company.  Making amends to the kids he's damaged'd probably be a great start.  And he could probably best do that by LEAVING THEM THE HELL ALONE.

        Had enough? Vote Democrat, 2006.

        by DC Scott on Mon Oct 02, 2006 at 08:08:39 PM PDT

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        •  wouldn't be the question then (1+ / 0-)
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          to what he is more addicted, alcohol or online gay sex? Both wouldn't be criminal, as long as you don't have the sexual encounter with a minor or with a person, who is dependent on you at your workplace.

          Just was thinking about a boss having an affair with a consenting adult woman. If the woman gets mad at him, she comes out and says she was sexually harrassed by him and can go to court. If both are all but consenting and happy, chances are they don't have to cover up their affair and come out with it openly and get married.

          Gays wouldn't have the same option yet, right? Basically my question is, can you be openly gay and have a relationship with your consenting inferior co-worker, or is that automatically illegal, as there is a work relationship of employer to employee involved?

          Power ought to serve as a check to power - Montesquieu, 1748

          by mimi on Mon Oct 02, 2006 at 08:56:14 PM PDT

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          •  clarification: I meant an affair between boss and (0+ / 0-)

            secretary, for example.

            Power ought to serve as a check to power - Montesquieu, 1748

            by mimi on Mon Oct 02, 2006 at 08:57:55 PM PDT

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          •  Actually... (1+ / 0-)
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            What he did is criminal, thanks to the laws he passed.  

            Relationships with co-workers who are benieth you is not automatically illegal, as far as I know.  Probably frowned upon, but not illegal.

            "No government has the right to tell its citizens whom to love. The only queer people are those who don't love anybody." - Rita Mae Brown (-4.75, -7.13)

            by AUBoy2007 on Mon Oct 02, 2006 at 09:08:29 PM PDT

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          •  Well, issue is predatory sexual advances. But . (1+ / 0-)
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            No federal law banning sexual harassment based on same-sex affinity, although individual federal agencies have written policies adding sexual orientation to list of protected categories.  In layment's terms, federal policy prohibits same sex sexual harassment.  

            That said, Scott Bloch, a Bush appointee to the Office of Special Counsel of OPM, attempted to reverse that policy in '04 (after swearing during confirmation he wouldn't do so), HERE, but that was beat back after Congress got involved.  

            Foley would come under a different set of rules in Congress.  Senator Bob Packwood (Dem) had to resign over sexual harassment of women after the Senate Ethics Committee unanimously concluded he should be expelled from Senate.  HERE.  Packwood also cited alcoholism and blackouts as at least a  part of his problem.  HERE.    

            These guys give drunks a bad name.  :)

            Had enough? Vote Democrat, 2006.

            by DC Scott on Mon Oct 02, 2006 at 09:27:15 PM PDT

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