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  •  I didn't live here (1+ / 0-)
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    seabos84

    when the Mariners/stadium issue was big. I only arrived in '02. Although, this seems to have been replaced with the Sonics/arena issue, but not being a huge sports fan (let alone local sports fan), I haven't been following it that closely. Are they very supportive of yet another round of taxpayer-funded handouts to the rich?

    What's their take on the viaduct, both editorially and through their reportage? (I personally like the tunnel option, as that just seems to make the most sense from an urban design and even long-term economic perspective, as I think that it would ultimately pay for its higher cost through the increased tax base that would result from a viaduct-free waterfront--does that make me a "righty" here? ;-) )

    In any case, when there's an option, I always go for the P-I over the Times (e.g. the piles of discarded papers available at most cafes--yeah, I'm a cheap New Yorker at heart!).

    "Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed citizens can change the world. Indeed, it's the only thing that ever has." Margaret Mead

    by kovie on Sun Oct 15, 2006 at 04:02:11 PM PDT

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    •  about that (2+ / 0-)
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      viaduct ...

      why don't you discuss something non controversial, like how to best teach math?  ;)

      I am from massachusetts, I've lived here for 17 years, and the viaduct is gonna really get people pee'd off at each other.

      part of me would rather a tunnel - and part of me looks at what happened in Boston with the big dig going from 2 billion to 14 billion and the thing is still a mess.  out there, they REALLY know how to steal, and they did.

      out here, they don't know how to play in the big leagues, so they'll get ripped off by the out of towners, and the stolen money won't even end up in yachts in puget sound but yachts in ... new york? san fran?

      transportation issues out here are a freaking mess, and they are really good at lots of process and lots of doing nothing - until they do something that the big boys rip off.

      ugh.

      rmm.

      http://www.liemail.com/BambooGrassroots.html

      by seabos84 on Sun Oct 15, 2006 at 04:14:50 PM PDT

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    •  The viaduct/tunnel (6+ / 0-)

      The tunnel - if the mayor gets his way and it's shoved down our throats - will be the crime of the century.

      It will suck out all the money for other badly needed transportation projects for an entire generation. Good luck finding money for anything else once it has bankrupted the city's coffers.

      All the public will get (along with the multi-billion dolar bill) will be exactly what we don't want or need downtown: more outrageously priced condos - pefect for all the newcomers...and the big developers, who are the only ones who wil really benefit from this debacle.

      The biggest lie that seems to always go unanswered is the "view" scam.  The only view that'll be available is going to be from the high-rise condos.  The public thinks they'll get some beautiful strip of public space where the viaduct now sits, and they think it'll have panoramic views of the Sound and Olympics.  Hah!  Here's some news for the suckers: there ain't no views from that strip of ground.  It's blocked by the development that already sits on the actual waterfront.  Don't believe me?  Go take a look.  From the ground, you can only get little slivers of view as you peek between the existing development, and only if you look at the perfect angle at the right moment.

      When the whole strip is turned over to the condo builders, they (or more specifically, the folks who buy into the upper floors) will get the views - views which are now enjoyed by everyone who drives the viaduct. Everybody else gets to pay for it.  Nice.

      Of course, this is nothing new.  The mayors of Seattle have long stolen the best public assets and handed them over to developers.  The current mayor is no different, just a little better about PR and wrapping himself in a green wrapper.

      And - just to keep this on topic - I'll donate $50.01 to Darcy, in hopes that she will help the state's congressional delegation put a stop to this historic folly. ;)

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