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  •  Thanks for the insight, but not for the put-down. (0+ / 0-)

    You are right that there are some issues with the core business model. And you may have a point about the top management too. (I don't want to get into that kind of a discussion.) But "Frank Blethen" is not the bogeyman. The paper's internal problems are more the product of director-level vision issues, and continually eroding circulation and print ads. I get to see the numbers each month, and I can vouch that the P-I is a big drain on the bottom line. They're both pretty good papers, news content wise. I'm not ragging on the P-I; I read both.

    I thank you for offering your perspective, but in so doing please do not show such disrespect for mine by saying that I'm regurgitating the company line. I'm not. I work there now--and you don't--and I simply have a better idea of how things look than you do. This thread was my big chance to be a kossack on the front line of an issue; my expertise is a service to the community here. Don't forget that I do not support the Reichert endorsement.

    If the JOA is terminated and the P-I dies, it will be as much the fault of Hearst for not investing in its own paper. You forget that even though the P-I itself is a good paper, its parent company is pretty foul, above and beyond the small-time Blethens.

    As to the strike several years ago, I know how tough that was for most people involved. Management and labor both had a good case; in the end the issue was money. It always is. There's not enough of it to give everybody what they need. This year's negotiations just wrapped up a few weeks ago, and there were no strikes. Both sides were generally tolerant about the new contract. Again, not enough money, but my point is to show you that life goes on. There are still good people at the Times, and plenty of 'em, and don't think you can denigrate them and their hard work just because you had a bad experience once.

    The Reichert endorsement is solely the product of the editorial board, and if you want to cast blame, cast it on them. You know all about the walls between news and opinion, and publisher and newsroom. Frank Blethen may be a jerk for supporting the estate tax repeal, and never mind some of his other political opinions, but his failures do not amount to a blanket failure of the Seattle Times. I think we have some darn good news coverage and photography, and that's the core of the paper. We work hard here, and I for one resent being grouped together with the publisher and the editorial board.

    •  Oh, please! (1+ / 0-)
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      This statement:

      I'm not. I work there now--and you don't--and I simply have a better idea of how things look than you do.

      Is belied by this statement:

      This year's negotiations just wrapped up a few weeks ago, and there were no strikes. Both sides were generally tolerant about the new contract. Again, not enough money, but my point is to show you that life goes on.

      They got no raise. NO RAISE! Read the comments here and tell me with a straight face that "both sides were generally tolerant about the new contract." Management  sure as hell was more tolerant. You bet they were!

      The Guild members took it up the ass with a wire brush. You are parroting the company line, you are insulting my intelligence, and you're insulting the intelligence of anyone who reads this.

      I called bullshit on Times management and their willing dupes online when my job was at stake. You think I'm going to shut up now, when it isn't? I call bullshit on them now, and on you along with them.

      "Lash those traitors and conservatives with the pen of gall and wormwood. Let them feel -- no temporising!" - Andrew Jackson to Francis Preston Blair, 1835

      by Ivan on Sun Oct 15, 2006 at 09:34:14 PM PDT

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