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  •  The Restoration is a pretty easy sell (2+ / 0-)
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    Lots of sex and scandal--definitely the makings of a good popular history. There's a BBC series about Charles 2 I'm dying to watch--stars Rufus Sewell as Charles II--yummy!

    "This is a Revolution, dammit. We're going to have to offend SOMEbody!"--John Adams, *1776*

    by aphra behn on Thu Oct 19, 2006 at 06:31:59 PM PDT

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    •  What was the Johnny Depp movie like? (1+ / 0-)
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      The Libertine?  I haven't seen it yet.

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      by hrh on Thu Oct 19, 2006 at 06:38:20 PM PDT

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      •  The Libertine: mini-review (4+ / 0-)
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        I enjoyed the Libertine, even though (of course) it takes historical license. Elizabeth Barry is a prominent character; the movie goes along with the tradition that Rochester trained her as an actress.

        It is a brutal film, though, and not exactly light fare. It paints Rocester as a very dark person and portrays his libertinism as a sort of death wish--not sure I agree with that, but it makes for a gripping story.

        My biggest complaint with the film? Aphra Behn isn't in it! It gives a lot of time to Shadwell, who wrote a different play about Rochester (called the Libertine). I would have liked to see Behn's more affectionate take on him in The Rover at least mentioned, but I don't think that would have fit with the movie's tone.

        And Johnny Depp is friggin AMAZING in it. Naturally!

        "This is a Revolution, dammit. We're going to have to offend SOMEbody!"--John Adams, *1776*

        by aphra behn on Thu Oct 19, 2006 at 06:43:40 PM PDT

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        •  It compressed a number of events. (2+ / 0-)
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          And it DID gethis mother right.  Poor WIlmot--with that religious fanatic of a mother, of course he rebelled.

          And Johnny Depp was wonderful. That man......We concluded he MUST play Jean Claude, the French vampire hero of the Anita Blake books--he's the only one iwth the panache and the depth who could capture JC's seductiveness, menace and pain.

          I am trying tot hink of a movie Johnny Depp was in where he WASN'T superb...and failing.

          The last time we mixed religion and politics people got burned at the stake.

          by irishwitch on Thu Oct 19, 2006 at 07:26:22 PM PDT

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          •  Johnny Depp, Charles II, (1+ / 0-)
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            Depp is truly amazing. Even when the film sucks, he is amazing!

            I did like the portrayal of his mother, and even the sympathetic way the film dealt with the marriage.

            I didn't like the portrayal of Charles II that well. Although I like Malkovich, the performance seemed a little too cold. And there's no evidence, AFAIK, Wilmot's pornograpphic play was ever actually produced, so including it jarred me....BUT, I have to admit it made for a great scene.

            My favorite protrayal of Charles II (so far, haven't seen Rufus Sewell yet) is Sam Neill in Restoration He's enigmatic yet charismatic. Very powerful and sexy in an understated way. You never quite know what he's up to, or if he's up to anything.

            "This is a Revolution, dammit. We're going to have to offend SOMEbody!"--John Adams, *1776*

            by aphra behn on Thu Oct 19, 2006 at 07:48:39 PM PDT

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            •  Yes, Neill was lovely. (1+ / 0-)
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              Charles II was a handsome and compelling man--very sexual, very ribald, very witty, very smart. Malkovich lacked charisma completely--there was none of the joie de vivre Charles II possessed in great measure.

              I wsunder the imrpessiont hat what actually got him abnned was a peom critical of the king--and that the paly wans't produced (though the dancing dildos was pricelss to watch--as was the French amabassador's response).

              I also loved Stage Beauty. Billy Crudup NEVER did anything for me before that--but as the bsiexual actor, he was seductive as all hell.

              The last time we mixed religion and politics people got burned at the stake.

              by irishwitch on Thu Oct 19, 2006 at 08:00:13 PM PDT

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          •  Ah... Johnny Depp (3+ / 0-)
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            What can I say about Johnny Depp.  It's not so much his good looks I adore, but his fearlessness.  He just throws all he's got into a role, regardless of the consequences.

            Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas is one of my favorite movies.

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            by hrh on Thu Oct 19, 2006 at 07:57:34 PM PDT

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            •  He made it on his own terms (5+ / 0-)

              taking  roles no one else would have. I love Captain Jack deeply--because under all the   limp-wristed swagger (and I htink msot AMericans would be shocked by how effeminate the fierce heroes of hsitory, fromt he restorationa nd 18th century, would seem today) there's a brave man lurking.  Facing the Kraken : ""Allo, Beastie!"  WHen it really counts, Jack comes through.

              I fellin love with him in Edward Scissorhands. The sweetness there (typical of Burton's films, really; they're strange but sensitive and touching) had me in tears. And he was beautiful--the inspiration for Little Goth boys.  I saw a young man at a Fetish Weekend dressed as Edward--the patent leather jump suit,t he wilkd hair.  It was SUCH a temptation.  He never spoke to anyoen all weekend.  

              The last time we mixed religion and politics people got burned at the stake.

              by irishwitch on Thu Oct 19, 2006 at 08:04:04 PM PDT

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