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  •  Off-shore is the future (3+ / 0-)
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    SarahLee, rogun, cookiebear

    Much, much more wind off-shore.  

    Check out the wind maps:

    Population is also on the coast, making it cheaper to get the electricity to them.

    •  There both important (3+ / 0-)
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      SarahLee, rogun, Land of Enchantment

      Offshore wind can't do much for New Mexcico or west Texas or South Dakota.  If you can't guess why, I'll give you a hint.

      But yes we should line the eastern seabord from Cape Hateras to Cape Cod with offshore wind.

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      by tmendoza on Thu Oct 26, 2006 at 01:37:23 PM PDT

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      •  Texas (6+ / 0-)
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        Marek, rogun, splashy, kd texan, ER Doc, Turbonerd

        has a (maybe surprisingly) very favorable framework for wind, and has been the biggest State for wind project in recent years, and there are offshore projects on the coast. I must admit I haven't followed them that closely, but my bank is much involved (via our US office in NY) in the big onshore projects in the Mesas.

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        by Jerome a Paris on Thu Oct 26, 2006 at 02:12:18 PM PDT

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      •  Over the horizon (3+ / 0-)
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        rogun, mataliandy, pseudopod

        Acceptance of offshore wind generation on the East Coast would be helped if the turbines were visually virtually over the horizon.  I don't know what transmission issues are with additional distance from shore.  But on the East Coast there are a number of offshore shoals that could benefit from being identified by visible objects, especially those that could power marking lights as a by-product.

        For example, see the situation of Frying Pan shoals.

        Engineering to generate during hurricanes could also be a benefit.  How feasible is this?

      •  we got plenty of wind here (5+ / 0-)
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        rogun, besieged by bush, zett, dus7, ER Doc

        believe me, it just ain't from offshore -NM Wind Projects

        Plus we've got so much sun available for so much of the year, we're in a good place to use both wind and solar in business and residential settings.

        Seen wind turbines in action in Ireland, agree there are problems with siting, bird migrations and nearby residents.

        I would think that building and servicing on off-shore wind farms would be no more difficult or dangerous than working on oil platforms in the North Sea or the Gulf of Mexico. Difficult and dangerous - I've know people who've worked on oil platforms - but good pay and jobs that are or can be union.

        Jerome - major respect for walking the walk and being a successful capitalist with a conscience.

    •  Wow, you aint joking ... (0+ / 0-)

      ... the 50m wind power density offshore Lake Erie is almost as good as the mountain ridges of western Montana ... for a short bit I thought they were better, til I noticed I was looking at a 50m Montana map and a 100m Ohio map ... oops!

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      by BruceMcF on Thu Oct 26, 2006 at 06:01:36 PM PDT

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    •  Actually ... (0+ / 0-)

      This is both true and not true.

      There is tremendous wind in much of the US (Texas, Montana, Dakotas, ...).  And, the transport costs are not outrageous.

      There are serious infrastructure costs putting wind turbines at sea.

      Plus, with all due respect for Jerome (and he knows that I have great respect for him), he is an expert and focused on large wind projects.  There is real potential for micro-wind in distributed power generation.  Skids has done some good diaries on this, such as this one.

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