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  •  The Connecticut _Republican voters disagree. n/t (7+ / 0-)
    •  One can say the same about La., Col., and Neb. (3+ / 0-)
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      Rupert, deep6, enough

      Those 3 senators win because Republicans cross over to them. In some states you can't win without that.

      •  In some states (9+ / 0-)

        it's illegal to stay in the race after losing your party's primary.

        It's dishonorable in all of them.

        I agree with you, by the bye, that for viciously pragmatic reasons Senate dems are going to have deal with Lieberman. But I'll be damned if that means the rest of us have to change how we feel about him, or forget all the dishonest things he's done. Your diary confuses bitter necessity with a kind of 'is he really that bad?' attitude, and strongly disagree with that.

        •  don't agree, but you have a right to keep ... (0+ / 0-)

          your opinions about him, no question.

          •  Well, that's more than Joe conceded to those (4+ / 0-)
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            who thought that the war was going badly. Guess we can agree on the first amendment, anyway.

          •  you should think about the concepts (5+ / 0-)

            behind scardanelli's very apt point:

            It's dishonorable in all of them.

            Sure, that's an opinion, but it's also more than an opinion. It's a statement that represents an idea of unity and solidarity behind a broad platform of common values, one of which for Dems even happens to be the right to dissent, but not the right to betray and then expect no consequences; and that concept for Joe is something he just doesn't really understand--despite all of his posturing.

            What I think is important here is that maybe you, heineken, should think about this particular opinion that scardanelli voiced, and how it sums up exactly what it is that pisses so many of us very reasonable people off about Joe Lieberman.

            I appreciate your concern and even for stating your opinion in that it provides the impetus for this discussion. However, the party has the momentum again, see how Joe turns into the wind? He's looking out for himself and himself alone. He should caucus with the Dems, it's smart for him on so many levels, but this doesn't mean we have anything to gain by letting him off easy for his dishonorable behavior, because it's just Joe-ism masquerading under a debased notion of "centrism."

            -8.38, -8.00 Moderation in temper is always a virtue; but moderation in principle is always a vice. --Thomas Paine

            by hyperstation on Wed Nov 08, 2006 at 05:53:11 PM PST

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        •  Hopefully for only 2 years. (1+ / 0-)
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          If 9 a big if) we pick up more Senate seats in 2008 then Lieberman becomes less important.

          the overwhelming lust of the Republicans to keep control of Capitol Hill no matter what it costs the United States of America in blood and treasure...

          by Osiris on Wed Nov 08, 2006 at 06:46:47 PM PST

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      •  Excuse me, (0+ / 0-)

        are you saying that Colorado, Louisiana and Nebraska won't vote for a Democrat unless they act like a Republican?

        They must be confused.

        Life is what you focus on. I'm focusing on Karma and Hell. If there were no such things as Karma and Hell, we would want to invent them. Life is beautiful.

        by relentless on Wed Nov 08, 2006 at 06:40:21 PM PST

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    •  unfortunately... (2+ / 0-)
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      Rupert, heineken1717

      ...or rather not unfortunately, Connecticut republicans do count.  They like joe and they got joe.  

      But will joe return the favor is what we need to wait and see Iguess.

      If a democrat demands accountability in the Capital and no one covers it, does he make a sound?

      by DawnG on Wed Nov 08, 2006 at 05:33:02 PM PST

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