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  •  I don't think you realize the magnitude (0+ / 0-)

    of the increase you are talking about.  Single-payer healthcare alone would require about an $8-10/gallon increase in taxes.

    The inherent vice of capitalism is the unequal sharing of blessings; the inherent virtue of socialism is the equal sharing of miseries.

    by deathsinger on Thu Nov 09, 2006 at 05:46:18 AM PST

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    •  Hey, like I said above! ... (0+ / 0-)

      ... however, it is perfectly possible to pay out a part of the Social Divident in proportion to payroll taxes paid.

      The conventional "tax swap" is to swap existing payroll taxes (Social Security, Medicare and unemployment insurance) for a carbon tax, which will show up at the pump, but which has a much wider incidence, so gas prices would still be cheaper in the US than in western Europe.

      OH15: IN: Kilroy for Congress. OUT:Deborah Pryce

      by BruceMcF on Thu Nov 09, 2006 at 09:04:43 AM PST

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    •  Do you have numbers? (0+ / 0-)
      •  What numbers are you looking for? (0+ / 0-)

        American Healthcare is about $2T/year.

        Gas consumption is about $170B-gal/year.

        Government already spends about $500B/year on healthcare.

        In rough numbers you need $1.5T/year for single payer, with current consumption you need a tax in the $8-10 a gallon range to get that kind of money.

        The inherent vice of capitalism is the unequal sharing of blessings; the inherent virtue of socialism is the equal sharing of miseries.

        by deathsinger on Thu Nov 09, 2006 at 10:15:52 AM PST

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