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  •  I second all of princemyshkin's criticisms (2+ / 0-)
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    AllisonInSeattle, docangel

    As ambitious as the plan is, I think you could and should be more so.

    If you think about the basic concept behind the Overton window, it should be clear that we are going to get significantly less than we want.  So ask for the ideal: ask for an aggressive time frame that would still be doable if the nation were behind it, and accept that we will be lucky to end up with something even less aggressive than your original time frame.  But don't start out by being tentative or risk-averse, or we'll never get anywhere.

    •  Plan not aggressive enough ... (0+ / 0-)

      in the opinion of many of us.

      On the other hand, let us say that EA2020 were passed in 2008 ...

      • What are the chances, with the new incentives/otherwise in place, that many key targets (such as renewable power generation) would be surpassed well before its target dates?  
      • EA2020 is not static in development nor would it be in terms of legislative action.  Part of Mark Sumner's presentation at YearlyKos addressed extremely well the naysayers about past environmental action and how their claims proved easily order-of-magnitude too high about the costs. (Such as those who argued that w/out CFCs, it would be impossible to fulfill the demand for refrigetors and other refrigeration.)  What would be EA2025 legislation in 2012?  

      In other words, this package is:

      • Not all encompassing. There are many things that are not covered/discussed within EA2020. (Tried to stay with the 20 acts to achieve 20/20/20 by 2020.)
      • Only a starting point ...
      • A way to turn the nation/world toward a better path and to build momentum. View it as starting point rather than final event ...

      Energy Consensus: Learn - Connect - Share - Participate: For a new dialogue on Energy issues.

      by A Siegel on Sat Nov 11, 2006 at 03:10:43 AM PST

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      •  Practice Not Plan (0+ / 0-)

        Start from Solar Is Civil Defense

        Use small scale solar for emergency situations:  flashlight, radio, extra set of rechargeable batteries

        Build from there to supplemental systems for car camping, hiking, or occasional use

        We need to have mass market commodity solar products that work

        Then we have to use them in our daily lives and demonstrate them publicly

        Policy is one thing.  Practice is another.  Demonstration of practice in the public square is another thing altogether.

        Solar is civil defense. Video of my small scale solar experiments at

        by gmoke on Sat Nov 11, 2006 at 08:35:51 PM PST

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