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  •  Are you sure? (1+ / 0-)
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    Terra Mystica

    For the "activist base" even had problems with Casey in PA. For DC related travel advice, please visit that link.

    by jiacinto on Sat Nov 11, 2006 at 11:35:37 AM PST

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    •  Not really (8+ / 0-)

      Perhaps a bit around the time of the primaries, but by the end I don't recall Casey doing a lot to distance himself from Democrats.  Whereas that's what Ford was doing in the end.

      Look at the way kos works here.  There is tremendous support for a wide variety of candidates.  From Bill Nelson, to Ben Nelson and such.  But then you get a few who really end up in trouble.


      It's not because of ideas or beliefs.

      It's because of their tone.  Lieberman, Ford and so forth have this problem where they feel they must publicly bash on Democrats.  Well, it's no surprise then to see Democrats not really supporting them.

      This is something it took me a while to see.  The proper response is to be dismissive, not distancing.  You used to see this with the Republicans when they dismissed Pat Robertson, etc.

      •  cheers to The Other Steve ,,, (1+ / 0-)
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        You hit the nail on the head

      •  My quibble with Ford is that he dissed (1+ / 0-)
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        The Other Steve

        Dems too quickly as a tactic.  

        It was like he had as standing order #3, if some DEM says something remotely bad, or Lieberman says something stereotypically good about the war, react quickly to condemn or embrace.

        By being too quick to react, he looked to much like a panderer instead of a genuine believer.  

        If Casey was in a 1%+/- race, his tactics and tone would probably have been different.  But, chicken or egg?  I don't know.

        It's full of stars...

        by Terra Mystica on Sat Nov 11, 2006 at 12:49:46 PM PST

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        •  Aye (1+ / 0-)
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          The problem with the Ford/Lieberman tactic is that it gives credibility to the opponents arguments.  Say Corker says 'the Democrats are too radical' and ford says 'I agree, but you have to understand that I am not'.  I'm paraphrasing, but that's how it comes off as.

          Well, guess what the voters see on election day?

          The way to handle it is to deflect it.  You don't have to say anything about any other democrat.  When they bring it up, you say "Corker wants to talk about John Doe because he's afraid to talk about me".  That's it, you turn it into a weakness on their part.

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