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    GoldnI

    What was Crusader's point again?
    I thought his point was that Ford went out of his way to chastise liberals, making them not want to vote for him, not because of his stance on gay marriage.
    Every other Democrat we elected this year has the same stance (except Cohen, but he has the luxury of being in Memphis).
    The last Democrat to run for a high profile office in Tennessee with a platform that included gay rights was Jeff Clark in 2000.  He, uh, lost.  A lot.
    I hate that it's the truth, but it is.

    There are atheists in foxholes. But there are no Evangelicals.

    by Sidof79 on Sat Nov 11, 2006 at 02:38:33 PM PST

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    •  How many ran ads?? (0+ / 0-)

      standing in front of a church pointedly mentioning the opposition to the 14th amdnment's equal protection clause??

      Let justice reign though the heavens tremble

      by Viceroy on Sat Nov 11, 2006 at 07:27:34 PM PST

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      •  That doesn't make any sense (1+ / 0-)
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        None of them did, of course.
        You think that would have made them better?
        Or do you just keep spouting the same few points, hoping that people will stop touting facts?
        Did I use that word correctly?

        There are atheists in foxholes. But there are no Evangelicals.

        by Sidof79 on Sat Nov 11, 2006 at 07:56:59 PM PST

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        •  But that's what bothered people, you know? (0+ / 0-)

          It wasn't that he opposes gay rights - it's that he found it necessary to bring it up CONSTANTLY... without ever saying anything that suggested that he respected the opinion of those who disagree.

          •  I hate to say he had to (0+ / 0-)

            but he had to.
            The Corker camp made it a point to bring up his support for gay rights at every opportunity.  They brought up the fact that he voted for other gay rights legislation.  They brought up the fact that he had promised to vote against DOMA, before he wound up voting for it (and honestly, I think he voted for it because he knew he was going to run for Senate and would have gotten about 30% of the state to vote for him had he voted against it).
            And yes, several times he said something to the effect that he respected the opinions of those who disagreed.  But those statements never aired on FOX or MSNBC.  The first time I saw him speak was the end of August when the canvassers were getting started.  He said he believes the way he does because he was raised that way, and he has nothing against people who believe any differently.  That's just his opinion, the way his values are, having been raised in a very religious environment.
            It doesn't surprise me at all that this never made it to any media whatsoever.  It's not a very exciting declaration.

            There are atheists in foxholes. But there are no Evangelicals.

            by Sidof79 on Mon Nov 13, 2006 at 07:59:25 AM PST

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