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  •  I'm sorry, but I'm offended. (5+ / 0-)

    we expect you to conduct our business, every minute of every day.

    No.  They are our representatives not our slaves.  I expect them also to take time to sleep, eat, keep in shape, be with family and friends, continue to educate themselves about the world around them, and so forth.  I also expect them to do what is necessary, within truly ethical limits, to prepare for 2008.

    I've asked all the members of the Democratic caucus to remain in Washington over the Thanksgiving recess so we can begin to formulate an agenda for the American people."

    In addition to the grandstanding nature of this proposal, I note both that

    • An agenda for the first days of the new Congress already exists; and
    • I want my representatives to have lives of their own, which in this instance means getting to enjoy Thanksgiving with family and friends.

    Happy Thanksgiving.

    "My country, right or wrong; if right, to be kept right; and if wrong, to be set right." Carl Schurz

    by another American on Fri Nov 17, 2006 at 07:39:08 AM PST

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    •  I don't want to generalize (0+ / 0-)

      but I would like for you to consider a few salient points which I will list below.

      In the spirit of reasoned debate, and of civilized discourse, I want to tell you what I agree with in your comment:

      You are correct. Our representatives are not our slaves. But, one could reasonably argue, they ARE our employees. The bottom line is that our votes provide them with their jobs.

      You expect the representatives to take time to sleep. Fair enough. Would you find it reasonable to argue that there are likely a few common causes of not getting enough sleep for Americans? What do you think some of those might be? Aside from caffeine and dietary habits, one might argue that stressenters into it. One might further argue that stress for the average American is at an all time high.

      There are many in this nation that are not doing as well as the others. Many that work multiple jobs. Many that have daily stress levels much higher than baseline averages because of any number of reasons. I would argue that the economic boom we are currently experiencing is NOT felt by the average American. We are working harder, longer, for less compensation. Our lives, health, families, relationships and quality of life are suffering for it.

      I believe, and I don't want to assume, that this is some of what nyceve is pointing to here.

      Would it be fair to say that your average representative in government before they became elected was probably doing better than your average American? Would it be safe to assume that after they became elected they are certainly doing better than the average American?

      Would it then be unreasonable to expect the same level of worker output from our elected representatives that the average American puts in in any given week? One of the two houses of Congress used to put in only a 3-day work week.

      A show of hands, Kossacks, for all those blessed enough to only need to work 3 days for your work week? (I am going to make a wild-ass guess and suggest that the number of Kossacks this applies to is in the single-digit percentages).

      Nyceve's diaries of today and yesterday are a cry for some empathy from our representatives. A call to decency. A call to responsibility. A cry for some open-eyed assessment of the state of affairs, and for our elected representatives to feel the imperitive, imminently critical state of this nation.

      Nyceve is impatient, perhaps. But one of her most endearing qualities is her obvious empathy. This quality would be a boon to those representatives to have even a small measure. And to go along with that, some discipline and temerity to put that thimble of empathy into action. Resolute, effective, and critical action.

      But I certainly don't want to speak for her (assuming the female).

      My offense to your comment that I took away was with a single word: grandstanding.

      Please enlighten me as to how an act of moral leadership, of discipline to set about the business of the people so long neglected, of setting a good example for their peers; would be grandstanding.

      The offense that I take is small. And I don't want to come down on your comment. All views have merit. All discussions can bear fruit. I don't believe that nyceve's diary wants our representatives chained to their gavel and desks. For the doors of Congress to be barred from the outside and locked until they get some work done.

      On the other hand, is it not a beautiful dream? Is it not a hopeful wish that some of our employees would realize that our business is in danger, and that they could do so much to better the state of affairs for all, if they put their noses to the grindstone and got to work. True, effective, and ever-so-necessary work?

      Thanks to anyone who got through this comment. I am diary-adverse, that is to writing my own. I hope this response was not too rambling.

      Peace be unto all, no execeptions.

      • SS

      On forced conformity - "Compulsory unification of opinion achieves only the unanimity of the graveyard." - Justice Robert Jackson (1943)

      by Skeptical Spectacle on Fri Nov 17, 2006 at 08:10:46 AM PST

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