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  •  What part of (0+ / 0-)

    ... after the sperm enters the egg and the genetic material of each has been successfully combined ...

    is not specific enough for you?

    •  So (0+ / 0-)

      you want to award human rights to zygotes which are into mitotic divisions but prior to implantation, correct? Geez, how hard was that to answer? Now, what human rights do you want to award them and why?

      Read UTI, your free thought forum

      by DarkSyde on Sat Nov 18, 2006 at 03:48:40 PM PST

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      •  Apparantly it wasn't hard to state (0+ / 0-)

        at all.  That's why it was stated back on March 28, 2006.  Since you now apparantly understand it, should I assume that you actually read these posts or that I need to repeat things like 50 times before they manage to sink in?

        I would also like to repeat here, so it sinks in, that this is only ONE SUCH definition.  I have also provided a second.  Both with a discussion of the scientific rationale for why they might be potential candidates for being the demarcation point between having rights and not having rights as humans, and all of which is consistent with your point that there is a continuum at work here.  I am trying to explore the rational scientific basis of various such points, of which you have provided none, despite the fact that you appear to be arguing that blastocysts have no rights.

      •  Right to life is fine for this (0+ / 0-)

        discussion.

        •  OK (0+ / 0-)

          viable zygotes in storage on an jumbo jet stolen by terrorists and heading to New York City, and they say they have a dirty bomb on board, can we shoot it down or no?

          Read UTI, your free thought forum

          by DarkSyde on Sat Nov 18, 2006 at 04:02:06 PM PST

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          •  Of course. (0+ / 0-)

            Zygote or fully formed human, they can be sacrificed for the greater protection of the rest of society.

            See http://www.dailykos.com/...

            •  So (0+ / 0-)

              there are exception then if the risk vs reward is, in your opinion, high enough. And if the zygotes were on their way to a medical incinerator, then it would make even more sense, right? Of course, we don't know if the plane was really stolen by terrorists, it might be a sick prank. Or they might crash the thing in a desert on the way. But it's OK if the benefit to society is there, correct? Right to life doesn't apply, yes?

              Read UTI, your free thought forum

              by DarkSyde on Sat Nov 18, 2006 at 04:08:36 PM PST

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