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    evading issues instead of facing the fact that the insurance industry has already analyzed nuclear and found it wanting.

    The word "shill" occurs to me. I wonder just what the bad news is that you are not telling us about DME and what your financial stake in that is.

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    by alizard on Sat Nov 25, 2006 at 02:04:53 AM PST

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    •  Typical, the assumption that insurance agents are (0+ / 0-)


      The word "ostrich" occurs to me.   I wonder what the good news about fossil fuels is that allows you to disregard the millions who die each year from them without any coverage from the insurance industry.

      Or maybe you're a shill for the coal companies.

      By the way, when I wrote about DME pointing out its renewable sources, many people went nuts about how wonderful it was.   DME, like hydrogen, is not a source of energy, but a form on energy storage.   It is available from gas, coal, renewables and nuclear.

      You can't say the word "nuclear," because you don't understand the nature of "climate change," and probably you have not looked at any numbers connected with the climate change minimization options.

      The world doesn't actually care very much what you think.   The number of new nuclear reactors being built around the world (28), on order (62), and under consideration (160) shows on whether the world as whole, beyond the dopes in insurance companies, have determined.   Yesterday, Brazil announced the intention to add four more.

      You may be in a land of pretend, but the world as a whole as moved beyond your silly objection.

      •  With advocates like you. . . (0+ / 0-)

        DNE is going nowhere. Thanks for saving me the trouble of researching it.

        There are things going on with biofuel that you know nothing about, and I doubt that anybody else who knows will waste the time on explaining it to you.

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        by alizard on Sun Nov 26, 2006 at 04:26:30 AM PST

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        •  DME is already being industrialized at a rate (0+ / 0-)

          will easily outstrip the biofuels capacity of the entire planet, indeed the output from all renewable fuels for all uses in the United States.  

          This has nothing to do with my personality and your distaste for it.  You overestimate the importance of your emotional view point and you assume that I am the world's spokesman for DME, which I am not, and that if I were, everyone would react to me as you do.   I admit that I am unpleasant, however, my unpleasantness derives from my frustration at hearing so much wishful thinking in the face of the vast tragedy of climate change.

          Here is a link to a description of a symposium attended by all of the major players in the energy industry:  

          It was held in January of 2005, and the symposium is a planning session on bringing DME production to 400 million tons per year around the world.

          A metric ton of DME translates, in energy value, to about 65% of a metric ton of oil.   Thus 400MMT of DME, we say, is 260 MTOE (million tons oil equivalent.)

          Biofuels, for all the whoopla, provided just 0.6% of the world's transportation fuel as of 2003 and is expected to rise only to 1.4% by 2030 according to the  International Energy Agency.

          In the second quarter of 2006, the world was producing 83.95 million barrels a day of oil.   Using the US conversion factor of 7.33 barrels of oil per metric ton oil equivalent, and annualizing the figure we see that world oil production is now about 4.2 billion metric tons per year.   Thus if DME gets to 400 million tons as most of the world's energy executives seem to be planning, it will be the equivalent of 6.2% of the world's oil demand.

          This is larger by a factor of 10 than what is now available from biofuels (ethanol and biodiesel mostly) and is a factor of almost 4.5 times what people suppose will be available from biofuels 25 years from now.

          The data does not support your contentions.

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