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View Diary: RFK reconsidered (or, Sirota: Know Thyself) (57 comments)

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  •  Very Interesting Diary!! (0+ / 0-)

    I agree we must understand our history and its figures clearly.  We talk a lot here about reality-based this-and-that.  You're right about both Lincoln and the Kennedys in terms of their true attitudes towards Civil Rights.

    I also agree there seem to be myriad Sirota Fawners here who gobble up whatever he puts out.  Uh, Dave, how'd that whole Lamont thing work out for ya???

    •  Lincoln was a politician. (2+ / 0-)
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      John and Robert Kennedy were politicians.  They played rough in politics.  I've posted several comments on DKos arguing that I'd like to see that kind of rough and tumble politics come back to the Democratic Party.

      But their skill at politics doesn't mean they didn't or wouldn't have accomplished good for the country.  I disagree with the diarist that JFK was admired only in retrospect.  He inspired a different way of looking at politics in many--if not the diarist.  If he had lived, this would be a very different country today.

      •  you misunderstand me (1+ / 0-)
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        I have no doubt that JFK was admired in real time; he won, after all, and if he'd lived, he would have been overwhelmingly re-elected in 1964.

        I'm just making the point (and hardly an original one) that a tragic death tends to whitewash the less savory aspects of any historical figure. In death, they become both more and less than they were in life; this is inevitable and there's nothing necessarily wrong with it, but it distorts efforts to translate lessons to the current moment.

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