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  •  Science is secular (4+ / 0-)
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    What the fundamentalist fears most in a rational, secular curriculum in any academic setting - from K1 to a PhD program - is the fact that a scientific explanation for any observed phenomenon or property of the universe undermines the notion that God is a necessary and mandatory component of reality.

    It's easy to see how the idea of evolution threatens the religious worldview, but so too do the various laws of physics, what we know of biology, geology, and so forth. Everything must be expressed in terms that make God's active participation manifest and unquestionable. Anything else will present the student with the option of electing to adopt a rational view of existence.

    The Evangelicals talk among themselves of a "God in the gaps," referring to the notion that, while science may have explained some things satisfactorily, there are areas in which religion still offers the only known answers. Yet, with each new breakthrough in our understanding, those gaps get smaller and fewer in number. Cumulatively, God gets pushed out to the margins and is easier to dismiss as a self-delusional fantasy not unlike a child's "imaginary friend."

    Well, they just can't have that. So the battle lines are being re-drawn to force God into the curriculum and actively attack anything that smacks of secular values - like the separation of church and state. Personally, I don't begrudge anyone their personal ideas about anything. If the thought of heaven makes it easier for somebody to resolve the angst of mortality, I'd not take it away. The religious are welcome to their churches and songs and whatnot, as long as they understand that a secular society can accommodate them, that one can be religious and secular.

    Every day's another chance to stick it to The Man. - dls.

    by The Raven on Sun Nov 26, 2006 at 12:45:16 PM PST

    •  the notion of 'God' (4+ / 0-)
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      homogenius, tobendaro, marykk, SassyFrass

      You can still find 'God' even through a secular education. The people promoting abstinence-only sex ed and trying to dismiss science, at the very top of the chain, have a sick agenda. Something we can all agree on is that these types create strawmen from which to draw their power - 'nonbelievers', 'sinners', gays and anybody else they can brand as an enemy. They use this as fear, and as a power to wield with no end.

      To say that evolution threatens religion is nonsense, unless it undermines the end result of a game of telephone that has been going on for 2000 years. What those who wield power see it as is a threat to their control. Education at its very core threatens these insititutions' control over the masses. It's very hard to say what their overall objective in keeping everyone uneducated is beyond control of the people, because it would really be pure speculation at that point. Something tells me though that profit has been a true motive for all of these years.

    •  The irony is... (2+ / 0-)
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      I was raised in a religious home. My parents came from the midwest and were raised as Southern Baptists. From the second grade we attended a mainline church (precursor to the mega-churches). I was never taught that there was a conflict between God and science, but that God created everything and that included science. The idea that evolution was anti-God was quaint and ridiculous. My mother taught pre-school Sunday School, eventually becoming the head of pre-school. Today, at 81, she still doesn't think you have to believe that the world was created in seven calendar days, or that everything about Noah and the flood is literally accurate. Even without a college education, she understands that these stories are mythical and not literal.

      Blessed are the arrogant...for they shall be really impressed with themselves.

      by homogenius on Sun Nov 26, 2006 at 01:28:02 PM PST

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      •  yep, so right (3+ / 0-)
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        You've got the right of this.  Science in no way undermines my faith.  In many ways after taking a science lesson, I walk out in awe of the universe we live in.

        I think our parents might have known each other, they taught their children the same way.

      •  At Episcopal church summer camp, they taught us (0+ / 0-)

        ... the Big Bang and evolution, and concentrated on having us understand the creation story as metaphorical—that behind the material space-time curtain, Somebody cares.

        The first time I heard the 7000-year theory (= young earth creationism) seriously propounded was from 19 and 20-year old Mormon missionaries, and a bit later from the Southern Baptists in a Bible study group I was attending.

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