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  •  Indeed, the only (23+ / 0-)

    official protected from criminal liability is the President, while in office.  The Veep and everyone else on down can be indicted, tried and convicted just like any criminal.  They can also be impeached, of course.

    I believe our Dem members of Congress are right in not jumping the gun when it comes to impeachment.  We'll lose the media spin war if right-wing blowhards can point to quotes of Dems demanding impeachment before the hard evidence surfaces.

    Of course, there's no doubt that Bush has actually committed impeachable offenses.  Authorizing the NSA to spy on Americans without a warrant is a direct violation of the Fourth Amendment of the Constitution of the United States: "free from unreasonable searches and seizures" and all that.  The President swears an Oath to uphold and defend the Constitution.  He has betrayed his oath.  He must be impeached and removed from office for the good of the Republic.

    Never play leapfrog with a unicorn.

    by Cream Puff on Tue Dec 05, 2006 at 09:03:19 AM PST

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    •  If B&C are impeached, can they be pardoned? (3+ / 0-)
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      The Constitution says this:

      Art. II, Sec. 2

      The President shall be Commander in Chief of the Army and Navy of the United States, and of the Militia of the several States, when called into the actual Service of the United States; he may require the Opinion, in writing, of the principal Officer in each of the executive Departments, upon any subject relating to the Duties of their respective Offices, and he shall have Power to Grant Reprieves and Pardons for Offenses against the United States, except in Cases of Impeachment.

      Does that mean that if a gov't official is impeached, they cannot be pardoned for the crime for which they were impeached? If so, praise the Founders, halleluja!

      Republicans are liars.

      by tr4nqued on Tue Dec 05, 2006 at 02:46:43 PM PST

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      •  It's unclear (1+ / 0-)
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        whether that means they can't pardon their way out of impeachment, or whether they can't pardon any crimes they may also have been impeached for.

        Never play leapfrog with a unicorn.

        by Cream Puff on Tue Dec 05, 2006 at 06:15:17 PM PST

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        •  And it now occurs to me (1+ / 0-)
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          that it might also mean that a president who has been impeached but not yet convicted and removed from office cannot pardon crimes. In fact, I'm starting to sway to that interpretation. I guess I would have to go to the Federalist Papers to find out what is meant there. Funny how vague that is.

          Republicans are liars.

          by tr4nqued on Tue Dec 05, 2006 at 10:51:13 PM PST

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