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  •  Yup (5+ / 0-)

    Oddly missing equipment and seating from his aircraft too. And the log he kept in his duffel bag- gone.

    They did him bigger 'n shit. The fascists have been pro-active against their enemies for a long time. Isn't hegemony and the wealth of the world "worth" it? And the Bush clan is wrapped up tight in all of it.

    Fuckers.

    You shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you mad. -Aldous Huxley

    by Dave925 on Wed Dec 13, 2006 at 08:56:03 AM PST

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    •  JFK Jr. (3+ / 0-)
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      That one stunk to high heaven,
      http://youtube.com/...

      He was guaranteed future senator and president. No question about it. Heir apparent.

      IMO, you are right, he was taken out pre-emptively.

      As i indicated above, Liberals must stay away from small planes.

      Liberté, égalité, fraternité, ou la mort!

      by VoiceFromTheOuterWorld on Wed Dec 13, 2006 at 09:16:26 AM PST

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      •  are you (4+ / 0-)

        kidding me? I can buy the Daschle/Leahy thing, but John John? He was not guaranteed anything but a long life of privilege and magazine parties.
        He made a rookie mistake that a lot of young, over-confident, under-experienced pilots make. Similar to that Yankees pitcher who died recently. Or was that a conspiracy too?

        "[America is] not on a bridge to the 21st century. We're on a bus to Atlantic City with a roll of quarters." - Bill Maher

        by sadair on Wed Dec 13, 2006 at 09:44:28 AM PST

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        •  Hmm (5+ / 0-)

          What rookie mistake was that? Why was the co-pilot seat missing and not recovered? What happened to the log, the one that contained the passenger manifest? Were you aware John Jr hardly ever flew without a co-pilot? That he was no rookie and had hundreds of hours logged? That no S&R got under way for hours? Not until Clinton himself got on the phone and ordered one at 7 AM, 8 hours after the crash?

          You should look up some stuff before you start mouthing what the media has told you to believe.

          You shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you mad. -Aldous Huxley

          by Dave925 on Wed Dec 13, 2006 at 10:01:00 AM PST

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          •  Even if everything you said is true, (2+ / 0-)
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            is that supposed to be impressive evidence of a conspiracy?

            •  Umm (6+ / 0-)

              No, just some interesting questions. Is your response supposed to be a defense of the "offical" story that doesn't even address those questions?

              It always amazes me how vehemently questioning authority and their theories regarding suspicious incidents is opposed by some "progressive" individuals. The entire story of Civilization is littered with conspiracies of one prvileged group or another seeking to seize and maintain power.

              Amazing how none of that has ever gone on in the good ol' USA.

              You shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you mad. -Aldous Huxley

              by Dave925 on Wed Dec 13, 2006 at 10:28:43 AM PST

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              •  What's amazing (1+ / 0-)
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                is how you backpedal when asked about your evidence of a conspiracy. Instead of standing by what you were trying to imply, you say no, no, not me, I was just asking some "interesting questions." You then try to prove your point by advancing the strawman argument that I have somehow denied the existence of other historical conspiracies. I haven't, and I'm didn't ask my question because you "vehemently question[ed] authority[.]" I asked it because your comment clearly implied you believed JFK Jr. was murdered and the murder was covered up.

                So again, assuming everthing you said is true, do you believe those facts amount to evidence of a conspiracy?

                •  You know what? (4+ / 0-)

                  I don't have time for a debate, nor did I indicate I was looking for one. What is interesting is your contempt prior to investigation. If you paid attention you would see a link posted by a previous respondent. Start there. I am not here to do your research (I doubt you are interested anyway) so have at it.

                  You shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you mad. -Aldous Huxley

                  by Dave925 on Wed Dec 13, 2006 at 10:55:15 AM PST

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                  •  You (0+ / 0-)

                    were the one who said:

                    Why was the co-pilot seat missing and not recovered? What happened to the log, the one that contained the passenger manifest? Were you aware John Jr hardly ever flew without a co-pilot? That he was no rookie and had hundreds of hours logged? That no S&R got under way for hours? Not until Clinton himself got on the phone and ordered one at 7 AM, 8 hours after the crash?

                    You should look up some stuff before you start mouthing what the media has told you to believe.

                    I simply asked you, assuming everthing you said is true, whether you believe the facts you posted amount to evidence of a conspiracy.

                  •  Where do you get your information on the (0+ / 0-)

                    regular munitiae of operating single-engine aircraft?  You don't seem to know what you're talking about.

                    It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it - Aristotle

                    by gatorcog on Wed Dec 13, 2006 at 02:58:15 PM PST

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                •  People murder for a lot less (8+ / 0-)

                  If you've ever watched forensic files on CourtTV you'll know that people are murdered for all sorts of petty amounts of money and reasons.

                  Why is it always so far-fetched to think that when tens  or hundreds of millions of dollars are at stake or significant political power that these things don't happen?

                  It seems very likely that all sorts of murders are carried out when these stakes are so high.

                  Formerly of Los Angeles, now in the FL Panhandle(Lower Alabama) I blog at ThisIsWhatDemocracyLooksLike.com

                  by Thom K in LA on Wed Dec 13, 2006 at 11:00:02 AM PST

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                •  Wow... (4+ / 0-)

                  ...you are just terrified of anything that challenges your little world view.

                  I don't know about JFK Jr., but evidence of conspiracy abounds in the anthrax affair.  You simply refuse to look at it; You're either terrified of it or in on it in some sort of extremely minor way, possibly unwittingly.

                  •  No, actually (2+ / 0-)
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                    I'm not. I do, however, have a background in science, and I am skeptical by nature. I also tend to be offended by those who put forth wholly unsupported claims, especially about science. These kind of people are everywhere. In the mid-90s, some in the lab I worked for used a message board that was supposed to be a technical board for scientists and research technicians working with HIV. It was a wonderful resource for sharing research methods and other information, but it was taken over by anti-science conspiracy theorists who believed (1) AIDS was not caused by HIV; and/or (2) there is no such thing as HIV. Their theories were founded on "evidence" much like what is being put forth here: "it's a little too convenient that X is involved, isn't it?" To me this is no different than those right-wingers who deny evolution or who deny the existence of global warming.

          •  Rookie mistake (1+ / 0-)
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            Flying over water at night with no instrument rating or experience.  Spatial disorientation happens to plenty of high time pilots.
            What private pilot has a passenger manifest for his single-engine airplane?  There are a few types of logs that can be associated with a particular airplane, none of which are required to be in the airplane itself, and shouldn't be.
            Why would he get in his aiplane if he discovered one of the seats missing?

            Get over yourself.

            It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it - Aristotle

            by gatorcog on Wed Dec 13, 2006 at 02:55:49 PM PST

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