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  •  Whoa! 1st we are informed that bills (0+ / 0-)

    can be "held" by anyone last year and now we are informed "The "constitutionality" of the "constitutional option" appears to rest on the Senate's alleged "right" to adopt new rules for itself under general parliamentary procedure at... the beginning of a new Congress."

    Question: Why in hell hasn't/didn't the Democratic party take advantage of these tactics? Are the republicans smarter that our party?


    No nuclear option?

    Why in hell was everyone sitting on their brains the past 6 years?

    We are supposed to be delighted with this bullshit news? To be honest, I'm feeling betrayed by our own party.

    All the hand wringing, all the bitching and crying like Damn babies and now we are supposed to be HAPPY?

    Give me a break. Tell Reid to get his head out of his corporate ass and DO SOMETHING constructive for a change!

    Now then, one of the comment questions was, "Has anyone sent this to Reid's office yet?"

    I will! And every damn member of our party, and everywhere else I can think of whereas someone might tell Reid to Wake up!

    Get the urge to purge!

    by 0hio on Fri Dec 15, 2006 at 01:10:50 PM PST

    •  It's because the Republicans were lying (1+ / 0-)
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      And seriously stretching things in order to try to get  more power than they deserved.  It's actually pretty damn embarassing how little the Republicans managed to get done with a 10 seat majority.  

      In Britain they admit to having royalty. In the United States we pretend we don't have any, and then we elect them president.

      by Asak on Fri Dec 15, 2006 at 01:13:01 PM PST

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      •  My point is it's pretty damn embarassing (0+ / 0-)

        that it didn't take much to keep us in line at best and ignorant at worse.

        Look, if you play poker you know the rules of poker AND the rules of the table upon which you play. You don't jump into a strange poker game without knowing everything you need to know.

        If you play baseball, you read and know the rules of the game. No surprises, no dumb mistakes.

        It only follows that our elected officials should be VERY knowledgable of what they can and can't do at all times.

        I feel like I'm getting 80% of what I'm paying for in this game.

        I feel sick.

        Get the urge to purge!

        by 0hio on Fri Dec 15, 2006 at 01:51:01 PM PST

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    •  The problem with the nuclear option last year... (3+ / 0-)
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      was that even though the option they were trying to exercise was, according to the scholars who wrote the report the GOP was using, based on the assumption that it was being invoked at the beginning of a new Congress, making the actual rules work depended on having an honest broker in the chair, and a majority willing to abide by precedent.

      Last year, any objection made to the execution of the nuclear option could have been overruled by Cheney, and that ruling, though without support in precedent, would have stood thanks to a majority vote to table any appeals.

      This year, Cheney can rule any way he likes on it, but it's the Democrats who have the majority, and could either appeal his ruling and win, or (if he ruled according to actual precedent) sustain his ruling by voting to table the Republican appeal.

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