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  •  Sorry (2+ / 0-)
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    I can't say that terrorists should not fry. I can't stand up in front of people explaining why terrorists like Osama Bin Laden should be spared. They deserve the death penalty. For DC related travel advice, please visit that link.

    by jiacinto on Sat Dec 16, 2006 at 01:27:57 PM PST

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    •  No need to apologize to me. (12+ / 0-)

      I have the same visceral reaction when it comes to the Bin Ladens, Pinochets, McVeighs, and Rudolphs of the world.

      But if I were to act on all of my visceral impulses - and I'd imagine this to be true of anyone - I would be a very bad person. What I attempt to do in this instance is to expand my personal concept of right and wrong - since this is absolutely a life-and-death issue - to include my sociopolitical opinions.

      Again, though, that's just me. And I know that I'm likely in the minority these days.

      "Ah, you loved me as a loser, but now you're worried that I just might win." - L. Cohen

      by turnover on Sat Dec 16, 2006 at 01:36:44 PM PST

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    •  So, what should the Iraqis do about the (5+ / 0-)

      600,000 of their citizens we have killed?  Should they be demanding the death penalty for George Bush et al?

      How about those who were tortured?  Over 100 of whom died in US custody?  Should their families demand the death penalty for those responsible?

      Or, are American leaders exempt from this cycle of 'revenge' justice (an oxymoron I know). Just curious as to what you, were you an Iraqi citizen whose children/parents were killed as a result of the illegal invasion of your country, would consider justice.  

    •  "they deserve the death penalty" (8+ / 0-)

      I am so sick and tired of hearing this meme. Yes Bin Laden and his ilk deserve to die.  Yes I would be happy upon hearing of their death, yes it would seem like an example of justice to me.  BUT, just because someone deserves death that doesnt mean that it is our place to give it to them or to make that call.

      The United States is a country of the people and by the people established for the greater good of all.  No man is infalliable, no man never misjudges, no man is always correct.  How can we claim then that our govt, made up of falliable humanbeings is capable of making such an irrevesible decison as life vs. death.

      For me, the strongest arguement against the death penalty are the numerous instances in which the innocent are convicted are later exonerated.  What do we as a nation say to those people? "Oh, whoops, you were poor and black and couldnt afford a lawyer so we assumed you were guilty; you spent 15 years on death rown and then we killed you.  It turns out you didnt do it.  We're really sorry"
      There has been case after case of defense lawyers falling asleep during trial and just completely failing their clinents in the battle for their lives.  The vast majority of those convicted could not afford representation and had to make do with the abysmal representaion provided.  That is not justice.

      "I should be able to love my country and still love justice." -Albert Camus

      by zkeats on Sat Dec 16, 2006 at 01:44:42 PM PST

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    •  When a mistake is made (5+ / 0-)

      and someone is executed in error, who pays for that mistake?  Should they, too, pay with their life?  

      "Life is what happens to you while you're busy making other plans." John Lennon

      by trashablanca on Sat Dec 16, 2006 at 01:52:11 PM PST

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    •  And give them what they want? (4+ / 0-)

      Nothing would please Bin Laden more, if he were caught, than to have him literally go out in a blaze of glory.

      •  I agree (1+ / 0-)
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        Bin Laden and those like him are only made more powerful by death in the eyes of those that follow them... there is no benefit to killing them... it will only increase the number of those wanting to be like him. I used to support the death penalty... but over time have come to believe it is just not something that we should be doing... the wrongfully executed should be reason enough for life in prison to be the worst.

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        by jigsaw68 on Sat Dec 16, 2006 at 02:37:49 PM PST

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