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      There are a number of different folks out there who've been trying to learn as many lessons from different conflict situations from the Balkans to South America to Northern Ireland that might be applicable to what's going on in Iraq.

      Much of the more recent information on Northern Ireland (the focus of my diss) deals with the relationship between violence as part of the discrepancies in economic stability (the divying up of available resources by political affiliation) and less on the more apparent religious divisions (also generally related to political affiliation).

      According to these folks, there are things to be learned from lots of places...

      Frankly, I agree with them on that point. There are parallels to be found.

      Why not learn from the lessons learned well as in other conflict situations?

      "Computer. End holographic program...Computer? Computer?"

      by kredwyn on Wed Dec 20, 2006 at 09:33:19 PM PST

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      •  Afghanistan after the Soviet invasion (4+ / 0-)

        seems like a chilling parallel to me.  Major power invades country; leaves after suffering heavily casualties at the hands of guerrillas aided by neighboring countries; country decends into civil war among various tribal and religious factions.  

        Most Profound Man in Iraq: farmer in a remote area who, when asked by Marines if he had seen any foreign fighters in the area, replied "Yes, you."

        by johnny rotten on Wed Dec 20, 2006 at 10:26:08 PM PST

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          If nothing else, Iraq serves as a textbook demonstration that, under these circumstances, the invaded country will descend into civil war in its own good time, whether the invading power withdraws or not.

          You reminded me of a dark joke that was going around Russia at that time:

          Why are our troops still in Afghanistan?
          They are looking for the people who invited them.

          The more history moves on, the more it goes 'round in circles...

        •  I was talking to RenaRF (1+ / 0-)
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          about that the other night at the Black Rooster.

          The political vacumn factor is a real concern.

          "Computer. End holographic program...Computer? Computer?"

          by kredwyn on Thu Dec 21, 2006 at 07:30:00 AM PST

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