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  •  They are both (1+ / 0-)
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    kaye

    pushing the fiction that most Americans aren't against the war, just against the notion of losing the war. Bush has been saying this more and more. So if we escalate and destroy Iraq further, then chimpy's approval rating will soar because we will stop being so 'frustrated' by not winning.

    "War is a racket" Major General Smedley Butler, 1935

    by sydluna on Fri Dec 29, 2006 at 05:08:23 AM PST

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    •  I'm not sure what a win (2+ / 0-)
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      kaye, Tex Kosmaniac Dem Lady

      even means. How do we win and who is "we"?
      Who is it we will fight in this "surge"? Are we just picking a side in the civil war? Or do we get between them?

      Who are the bad guys and how do we know. Surely anyone killing civilians arw "bad guys", but that is both sides. Do we fight them both?

      Who do we train? Are we training soldiers/police who move on to be part of the militias?

      Who do we get our tips from on who the bad guys are? Are the warring sides just turning each other in?

      Will we just be going in this surge to raze another village?

      Really, really I do not know what it means to win, it's not a rhetorical question.

      I am puzled because it seems the side we want to take over are the ones most closely aligned to Iran, but we won't talk to Iran. The side we call insurgents is the side our buddy Arab nations support.

      And wtf! We are about to execute the man that was able to bring some order to this nation, who kept employment higher, medical care going, cheaper gas, better utilities. A bad guy but haven't we killed more Iraqis than he did? Some weren't safe then but in this chaos who is safe now?
      But bush who brought in the chaos is not even under arrest.

      Do I sound confused? I must be missing something.

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