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  •  Whether the current state of affairs is good for (1+ / 0-)
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    Israel is not the point-- it manifestly is not, but everyone makes mistakes.  Let's look back.  In 2002, invading Iraq looked like a plus for the State of Israel.  After all, who trusted the US and the UK to keep Saddam down forever?.  Yes, Colin Powell said, in 2001, that Saddam was "contained," "in a box," but the Israelis pride themselves on taking the long view, and with their American Neocon enablers, they saw taking out Saddam as an improvement in Israel's "strategic position."

    http://reformjudaismmag.org/...

    http://www.tau.ac.il/...

    Even Condi Rice was singing from the same page.

    http://www.informationclearinghouse....

    Now, after it has all gone south, the question is, how to optimize the outcome for the State of Israel?

    Today's answer seems to be to avoid the emergence of a potentially powerful Iran-Iraq working alliance by prolonging the instability in Iraq as long as possible, even after America is forced to withdraw.  One under-the-table part of this game is to use the Kurds, and work thru them.  Right now, Israel is heavily involved in Iraqi Kurdistan, and if the US ever leaves Iraq, the Kurds and their Israeli puppeteers will step up to try to maintain a destabilized Iraq.  A powerful Kurd entity can also cause trouble for Syria, probably more trouble than the US is willing to cause there.  In short, the Kurds will be Israel's proxy in Iraq after the Americans leave.

    http://www.newyorker.com/...

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/...

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    by oblomov on Fri Dec 29, 2006 at 09:08:34 AM PST

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    •  I forgot to add that (0+ / 0-)

      the Repubs could still attack Syria, Iran, or both; restart the draft; put the US on a full war footing; and dare us to throw them out in 2008.  But I think the above scenario is more likely and less troublesome.

      But the Purse-Lipped Preznit is nothing if not a double-or-nothing hustler, so who knows?

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      by oblomov on Fri Dec 29, 2006 at 09:18:19 AM PST

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      •  I thought Turkey would be none too pleased with (0+ / 0-)

        an enhanced Kurdistan.

        It's always something in that region.

        •  I am sure that capable minds are at work (0+ / 0-)

          on that issue.  Maybe the Iraqi Kurds are being told, "In return for all of this prosperity and quasi-independence you must foment strife between the Syrian and Iranian Kurds and their respective governments, but leave the Turkish Kurds alone."

          One cannot fail to notice that the Turks have been easing up somewhat on the Kurds lately.

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          by oblomov on Fri Dec 29, 2006 at 10:32:25 AM PST

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