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  •  Worst President ever (none)
    Until Abu Ghraib I was still holding out for Buchanan, but now I conceded the title to Dubya.

    I don't belong to any organized political party, I'm a Democrat--Will Rogers

    by Dancing Larry on Wed May 12, 2004 at 11:45:38 PM PDT

    •  R U Sure? (none)
      But he hasn't had sex with an intern!! </Sarcasm>
    •  Worst President ever (none)
      Personally, I would have picked Franklin Pierce as worst president ever. But modern technology has enabled Junior Bush to make faux pas globally in seconds.
    •  Interesting that you... (4.00)
      ...raise that analogy.  In reality, Bush is the exact polar opposite of Buchanan in terms of policy - with the same result.  JB was a big intellectual, learned in the law and a believer in the notion that reasoned argument could trump passion.  He felt that the looming territorial crisis and arguments over slavery could be put to bed through simple Supreme Court rulings at a time when Americans were reaching for their guns.  He was basically a Carter at a time when we needed a Jackson - or a Lincoln.  His zealous, slavish devotion to the constitution and to the "rule of law," rather paradoxically, proved to be his undoing.  His unwillingness to go to war led us to war.

      How odd that a man like Bush, who's only devotion is to his own will to power, could achieve the same ends.  It proves to me that governance is really about realpolitik and not blantant ideology.  Guys like Lincoln, T. Roosevelt, F. Roosevelt, and even Bubba Clinton couldn't be fenced in with strict ideologies.  They had guiding principles, but were willing to flex their policies at a moment's notice to get a job done.  Neither JB or GWB could see their way clear to doing that.

      Now John Kerry is not Lincoln - although what do I know.  Lincoln was a three time loser before he got a stab at it.  But Kerry seems to have the ability to think on his feet, flex his agenda, and make policy that gets the job done.  Characteristics I saw in both he and Dean.  Something like that is the perfect antidote to a guy like Bush.  

      No one can terrorize a whole nation, unless we are all his accomplices. - Edward R. Murrow

      by CrazyHorse on Thu May 13, 2004 at 06:25:31 AM PDT

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      •  Flexibility, the next Kerry trait (none)
        This may have been suggested in the thread yesterday on the Kerry "Seriousness" ad, and is by Kerry's campaign, but another good theme is  that flexibility in changing times is more important than staying a flawed course. It can also be used to turn a supposed flaw into a virtue. It goes along with responsibility, of course, because if you know you will never be held accountable, what does it matter whether you are really right or not?  

        Bush: what good is strong if you're wrong? (Of course, I don't think he's really strong, just stubborn and overcompensating.)

        Kerry:  Serious, Responsible, Flexible in changing times.

        If you're going in the wrong direction and you stay the course, where, exactly, do you wind up?

        by Mimikatz on Thu May 13, 2004 at 08:01:42 AM PDT

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      •  ...after Bush is out of office (none)
        ..hopefully this election, I would love to see a psychological biography of him.  I have used the term "Dry Drunk" to describe his personality traits but that may not be the whole story.  He clearly has a personality disorder and his inflexibility, black and white thinking, slight sadism revealed in his sense of humor and grandiosity are calling cards. He's made his administration into a cult following or state religion reflecting his narcissistic and overblown view of himself.

        Right now, I just want him out of office asap and to take his crew with him.  I think that this is the closest that we have been to facism since Tricky Dick and I wont rest easy until they are gone.

        •  Thanks (none)
          Having spent time in certain rooms, I see "dry drunk" written all over Dubya as well.  To be fair, it would be pretty hard for him to find any anonymity anywhere even if he were willing to work a program.

          I don't belong to any organized political party, I'm a Democrat--Will Rogers

          by Dancing Larry on Thu May 13, 2004 at 03:44:06 PM PDT

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    •  Jeems Buchanan (none)
      was a guileless patriot compared to GBII.

      James Polk, for his Mexico adventure and abuse of the military, may be close.

      Nixon's scandals - breaking into a campaign office - look like Monica compared to the damage this president has done to the country.

      Easily, hands down, there will be no doubt about it. Bush had precious few supporters among academics - the people who write history - a year ago. Bitching about "revisionist history" was not the smartest thing for starters.

      Now there's no way any honest pencil-pusher will have many kind words for this administration, not now, not ten years from now, not in a century.

      Worst. President. Ever. The outrage of this administration makes me want to puke.

    •  Watergate! (none)

      Does anybody else think Watergate sounds like a junior-high level problem compared to the heap on the White House doorstep today?  I can't fathom how, with a war based on falsifications, abu ghraib, lying to congress & the populace about the costs of both Iraq and Afghanistan, diverting congressionally appropriated funds from the Afghan war to repaving runways in preparation for our attack on Iraq, to name a few - how a president could weather this into another term?  Are Americans really expecting a different Bush should he be reelected?

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